[AktiviX-discuss] [AktiviX-users] list-admins: Changes to lists.aktivix.org subscription process

gdm gdm at aktivix.org
Sun Mar 14 09:55:00 UTC 2010


i agree with what mp wrote. well said.

solidarity,

	--gdm

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 03:19:46PM +0000, mp wrote:
> On 13/03/10 14:07, Ian Gregory wrote:
> > Personally I don't think "bulk subscribe" or even "bulk invite" have any
> > place in a mailing list manager. I take a dim view of anyone or any
> > organisation that attempts to subscribe me to any list and I would never
> > subscribe anyone to a list I managed. Subscription is (IMHO) something
> > that should always be left to the subscriber.
> 
> Much as I sympathise with this view, most meetings that I have ever
> attended unfolded in this way, when it came to lists:
> 
> 1: Should we make a list (unless it already exists)?, and, when the
> anser is yes,
> then,
> 
> 2: A piece of paper goes round and people put their names and emails on it.
> 
> 3: You receive an email that you have been subscribed (as you requested
> to be). As a matter of fact I have never heard anyone say: "That is not
> how (anarcha-)hackers do it!"
> 
> So, is it really Aktivix's business to change the way in which meetings
> usually go? Perhaps, but then maybe there should be a manual in how to
> use mailing lists in "the right way" together with the AUP that list
> admins have to agree to also.
> 
> In a sense Aktivix should be careful not to be betraying one its own
> principles - (non-)vanguardism - by rejecting groups and processes that
> are not sufficiently technologically literate - or at least try to
> educate people, rather than just take a "dim view of them."
> 
> In any case, "bulk invite" should be a fine compromise, but the fact is
> that there a lot of people who want to use email and be on lists who
> have no flippin' clue about how it works and wouldn't be able to
> subscribe themselves or be afraid of doing it the wrong or whatever.
> 
> 
> -mp
> 
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