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<font face="Calibri">alan - i understand where this is coming from, and
don't blame you guys for wanting to take measures to protect your
domain. BUT it certainly doesn't help us build trust with our potential
subscribers when they get a mailman-generated invite and are given a
confirmation link that takes them to an "untrusted" and insecure
webpage. when i just tested the new bulk invite functionality you
describe below, i was taken to a page with the following warning:<br>
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<img alt="" src="cid:part1.00020603.06060805@mixnyc.org" height="367"
width="664"><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><font face="Calibri"><font color="#660000">This
Connection is Untrusted<br>
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You have asked Firefox to connect securely to lists.aktivix.org, but we
can't confirm that your connection is secure. Normally, when you try to
connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove
that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity
can't be verified.</font>
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your security certification needs to be corrected a.s.a.p. in order for
us to continue using your mailman software for our bulk email needs.
there's no way our email outreach will ever work if we have to send
folks through a confirmation page that gives them security warning
messages like this. nobody will trust us, and nobody will subscribe.<br>
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thanks,<br>
frank<br>
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Frank Susa | Board Chair | MIX NYC<br>
212 608 0805 | <a href="mailto:frank@mixnyc.org"><font color="#595959">frank@mixnyc.org</font></a>
| <a href="http://www.mixnyc.org/"><font color="#595959">mixnyc.org</font></a><br>
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On 3 3 10 7 39 pm, Alan wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:20100304003936.GN6336@apple.rat.burntout.org"
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">We've recently made a change to the way that subscribers are added to lists.
We've disabled and removed the ability for list admins to mass subscribe email addresses to lists.
Now when you add email addresses via the admin interface it acts to invite people instead.
An email is sent to them to which must be confirmed either by
1. Responding via email. This is as simple as clicking reply, then send from their mail client
or
2. Following a link in the email to a web page.
We've had to do this because lists have been set up with large numbers of subscribers, which contained addresses that were clearly not opt in,
+and used for sending unsolicited bulk email.
This affects our ability to deliver email from any list to its subscribers, it creates problems for our hosting, and is in general a "bad
+thing".
This should not affect you if you are adding addresses to lists for people who have agreed to receive your mailings.
We understand that in the real world it is sometimes difficult for people to read instructions in email and reply successfully. We also know
+that following a link through to our website <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.aktivix.org">https://lists.aktivix.org</a> can be difficult also due to non-commercial web certificates and web
+browsers showing warnings. We are looking to change the certificate for <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.aktivix.org">https://lists.aktivix.org</a> to one that is accepted in most web
+browsers.
You can also help people subscribe by sending them a clearly worded welcome message which explains the issues and guides them through the
+process of accepting your invitation.
Solidarity,
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aland@aktivix.org">aland@aktivix.org</a>
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