[alt-media-res] Fw: Metadata Digest, Vol 7, Issue 8
zoe
zoe at esemplastic.net
Fri Feb 23 16:14:09 GMT 2007
interesting exchange going on here between our jamie and polish techie
zazcek, who refers to a potentially useful article for those interested in
politics of internet development..
xxx
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> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:31:22 +0100
> From: Zaczek <zaczek at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Metadata] Fw: [transmission-discuss] Transmission at
> Mejeriet
> To: "Researching ways in which we can standardise a set of metadata we
> collect, and the format we make this metadata available for
> content-sharing." <metadata at transmission.cc>
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> I'm not against you making money off this project. I'm against
> blocking the exchange when no money is in sight. Even from a monetary
> point of view, if we keep the exchange going, the project will gain in
> value and could be monetized later. If we won't, it's going nowhere.
>
> The capitalists understood that perfectly. See this insightful
> article: http://www.metamute.org/en/InfoEnclosure-2.0
>
> Cheers,
> Zaczek
>
> On 2/21/07, jamie king <jk.jamie at gmail.com> wrote:
> > silly! :) jan and i spent already a long time compiling a list of
> > feedback further work to be done and so on -- as you *well know*.
> > there were no or few responses to it, precisely because going further
> > implies _significant_ labour. it's far too easy to speak about
> > 'capitalist logic': it's more like 'working class' logic, if you're
> > being Marxian-noodly about it: having some capital to be able to take
> > time out from pursuing other things to keep a roof over one's head,
> > and some veg in the pot -- precisely because you are _not_ a
> > Capitalist, and don't have Capital, and can't thus always afford gift
> > exchange. so let's not take potshots at each other: we can't always
> > potlach. It's potluck.
> >
> > xj
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/21/07, Zaczek <zaczek at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It would be nice though if the capitalist logic didn't permeate our
> > > mutual relationships. No harm would be done if we exchanged feedback
> > > before we get paid for it. Anyone remembers the good old days when
> > > people exchanged ideas without thinking of money?
> > >
> > > Just my two cents (pun intended).
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Zaczek
> > >
> > > On 2/21/07, jamie king <jk.jamie at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > i would say there would be every chance it will be integrated: i
will
> > > > poke the OSI again and see if i can get the grant application
> > > > finalised.
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > >
> > > > jamie
> > > >
> > > > On 2/21/07, zoe <zoe at esemplastic.net> wrote:
> > > > > greetings all
> > > > > here is interesting news
> > > > > is there a chance that the feedback from the draft metadata
standard
> > > > > (presented at the last transmission meeting) will have been
integrated by
> > > > > May?
> > > > > imho it seems such a waste to leave all the work done to date
hanging for so
> > > > > long already for the sake of a few quid to pay people - would it
be possible
> > > > > to move ahead now with finalisation and then maybe pay the people
who do the
> > > > > work if/when any money comes through from the various funding bids
under
> > > > > consideration?
> > > > > cheers now!
> > > > > xz
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <rafilm at kulturmejeriet.se>
> > > > > To: <discuss at transmission.cc>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:51 PM
> > > > > Subject: [transmission-discuss] Transmission at Mejeriet
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We at RaFILM and Mick have been discussing how to arrange the
next
> > > > > transmission
> > > > > > meeting. As we mentioned in London we could have the meeting at
the
> > > > > culture
> > > > > > house from were we work. It is situated in Lund, Sweden (in the
south of
> > > > > > Sweden, close to Malmo and Copenhagen).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our suggestions are that we meet ether 9-13 of May or 16-20 of
May. It
> > > > > would be
> > > > > > great if we could decide which week that works for you all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We could fix the location for the meeting, sleeping arrangements
and the
> > > > > > activities that are focused on the public (screening,
installations, ect)
> > > > > > The people most involved in the discussing groups could arrange
the
> > > > > meetings on
> > > > > > the different subjects (meta data ect).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope this sounds interesting and that we can decide if this
works for you
> > > > > all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > Alex - RaFILM
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