[blag-whereto] shutdown/removal of blag vm
Jason
jason at craftstream.com
Sun Sep 22 21:24:43 UTC 2013
Hello mate,
Might pop down one night :) I remember the jaunts at the Beehive.
Long live BLAG.
Jason
On 22/09/2013 22:08, Unknown wrote:
> Hi Jason
>
> Great to hear that you will support Blag if ever you need help to pay
> for the domain name you know where to find me on a Thursday night, I'm
> at 365 as always.
>
> Blag forever
>
> Weyasey
>
> On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 16:42 +0100, Jason wrote:
>> I will continue to host the BLAG forums and pay for the domain name
>> forever if you guys want.
>>
>> On 22/09/2013 13:46, tristan wrote:
>>> Bonjour A Tous
>>>
>>> Blag 140k is simply a great""piece of Art"..i don't understand;you seem
>>> to have no support from the FSF & Gnu-org.
>>> Why?
>>> Is gNewSense pulling all the cover?i tried the latest released,not
>>> only the installation failed but on the 'Live Cd' it made me think
>>> of a php Webpage...!!2.3 was nicer but no comparaison to..BLAG
>>> 140k,which as i wrote earlier i have deddicated to an external hard
>>> disc.(still super fast..)
>>> what can we do ?as average users with no technical knowledge;
>>> is it a question of finance?
>>> or of mainteneers&developpers?servers?
>>>
>>> the main difference with all the flashy codec(x) fancy button distros
>>> is that there is a philosophy behind it....
>>> if Blag dissapears i would be very unhappy with the Gnu-org
>>> & the Fsf,considering that they have not defended such a great project.
>>>
>>> merci en tous les cas a tous.
>>> amicalement tristan.
>>>
>>> Le 22/09/2013 14:11, Unknown a écrit :
>>>> Hi All
>>>>
>>>> I too would like to see the servers continue, because some people are
>>>> leaving I don't see why they think they are the only one who needed it.
>>>>
>>>> Please, Please continue to maintain the servers, website and forum for
>>>> us poor blaggers who still and always will use blag.
>>>>
>>>> I am still using Blag 140K it works perfect and do all that the new
>>>> bells and whistle OS do and some that they cannot do. Yes I am running
>>>> kernel 3.11.1 and I do all the necessary security updates.
>>>>
>>>> Blag is still needed and used by us simple blaggers who understand that
>>>> a great OS don't have to be the latest must have.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Weyasey
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 00:10 +0200, robert wrote:
>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>> Would very much like to keep the server and the forum going. Don't have
>>>>> the technical skill to upgrade the server by myself, but willing to help
>>>>> in any way i can. Also, i can take resposibility for maintaining the
>>>>> forum if Junichirô and you all wish - but if so, i'll need admin access.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even with good intentions, my work for BLAG over the last couple of
>>>>> years has been limited to maintaining the icons and some simple themes.
>>>>> I've made a few (pathetic) attempts at spinning a new BLAG version, and
>>>>> i'll probably try again - but can't promise any big success on my own.
>>>>>
>>>>> So - if you are reading this and feel just a little bit motivated: Let's
>>>>> have another go at keeping BLAG alive!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> robert (veganix)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> fr., 20.09.2013 kl. 11.51 -0500, skrevvladimirpunk at radiomexico.com:
>>>>>> I hope somebody else answear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only has passed 2 years since the last blag version, I don't see why
>>>>>> we could think is not going up again, at the forum recently a new user
>>>>>> reported to be comfortable using blag 140k and especting a new one.
>>>>>> There are persons interesed in the project, I proposse give it more
>>>>>> time and make an effort to share the project with more people. I'm
>>>>>> sure more than one would be happy with a new blag distribution (even,
>>>>>> I would say, some part of the dissapointed fedora comunity coud come
>>>>>> with us).
>>>>>> If it counts, I'm still interested in a new blag version, I'll do my
>>>>>> best to keep it up again. If there is anybody else interested please
>>>>>> answear, if no I understand if you want to close the site.
>>>>>> Vladimir
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Mensaje original -----
>>>>>> De:
>>>>>> Alexandre Oliva<lxoliva at fsfla.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Para:
>>>>>> "Ward Vandewege"<ward at fsf.org>
>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enviado:
>>>>>> Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:16:57 -0300
>>>>>> Asunto:
>>>>>> Re: [blag-whereto] shutdown/removal of blag vm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [adding the blag list]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Ward,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2013, Ward Vandewege wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > RMS mentioned that you'd like to shut down the blag VM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not so much that I'd like to; quite the opposite. I just
>>>>>> told him
>>>>>> what the status was and asked for help in enlisting volunteers
>>>>>> to bring
>>>>>> it back to life, because it would be very useful for me if
>>>>>> BLAG carried
>>>>>> on, but I can't undertake the effort of maintaining it by
>>>>>> myself :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is that I don't think it's responsible to keep an
>>>>>> unmaintained server connected to the Internet without security
>>>>>> updates
>>>>>> for so long, and since I'm the person who requested the VM and
>>>>>> signed up
>>>>>> as responsible for it, I must live up to the responsibility
>>>>>> and do
>>>>>> something about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BLAG has not had updates or new releases for a couple of
>>>>>> years, if not
>>>>>> more, and I don't know that anyone has been working on such
>>>>>> things; I'm
>>>>>> told by other blag maintainers that by now users and
>>>>>> developers have
>>>>>> moved on to other distros, or to Fedora with the Freed-ora
>>>>>> builds of GNU
>>>>>> Linux-libre, and BLAG is dead :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, this email should be taken as a call for volunteers who'd
>>>>>> like to
>>>>>> organize and take over its maintainership, so as to stop us
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> bringing the unmaintained server down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another possibility, in case there's still a community using
>>>>>> the forum,
>>>>>> the server, whatever, is to upgrade the server to Fedora 19,
>>>>>> minus the
>>>>>> proprietary server in it, and the Freed-ora kernel. Of course,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> wouldn't make sense to undertake that effort if it wouldn't be
>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Is there any data on the VM that you would like to preserve?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for asking. I have my own backups of the server, that
>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>> probably keep around for a while, but others might want to
>>>>>> copy
>>>>>> something out too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, this email may also be regarded as a chance for people who
>>>>>> want to
>>>>>> copy stuff out of the server to do so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 8~-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about we tentatively schedule the blag server shutdown to
>>>>>> the end of
>>>>>> the month? Barring signs that the, erhm, patient is not dead,
>>>>>> of course
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighterhttp://FSFLA.org/~lxoliva/
>>>>>> You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Gandhi
>>>>>> Be Free! --http://FSFLA.org/ FSF Latin America board member
>>>>>> Free Software Evangelist Red Hat Brazil Compiler Engineer
>>>>>>
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