[Campaignforrealdemocracy] Campaignforrealdemocracy Digest, Vol 5, Issue 8

Thu Sep 10 19:15:18 BST 2009

Hi Mark (and for anyone else wanting to adjust the settings)

All the list admin stuff is done by James Holland - sorry I can't help you
there but hopefully he'll be in touch [ "James Holland" <james at dogmanet.org>
]

Best wishes
Mark

2009/9/10 Mark Wehrly <mwehrly1 at yahoo.com>

>  Hi, Mark, sorry to bother you again, but although I am now getting a
> digest, I am also still getting all the single emails. Can you help?
> thanks,
> Mark
>
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> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:23:24 +0100
> From: Matthew Scott <Matt at communitysectorcoalition.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] CSC & CRD
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> Matthew Scott
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> CSC Director
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> 020 7336 9461
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> Work mobile: 07827 258411
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> Website: www.communitysectorcoalition.org.uk
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> From: Matthew Scott [mailto:Matt at communitysectorcoalition.org.uk]
> Sent: 10 September 2009 11:21
> To: Mark Barrett; campaignforrealdemocracy at lists.aktivix.org;
> project2012 at googlegroups.com; 21st-century-network at googlegroups.com;
> peopleincommon at lists.riseup.net
> Subject: Re: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] CSC & CRD
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> Thanks Mark
>
> Would be great to be part of the Meet Up as a CSC (Community Sector
> Coalition) thing
>
> Just to explain a bit more about where I am coming from - the attached doc
> you sent covers this but to simplify and update it, I cross quite a few
> groupings - as director of the National Coalition for Independent Action -
> where we believe dissent protects democracy; as founder / organizer of the
> London Community Development Network - some 300 activists and workers; and
> my day job as director of the Community Sector Coalition, which has a wider
> membership of 70,000 groups from 25 national orgs
>
> My concern is:
>
>
> *  To challenge and change the culture of the voluntary / community sector;
> i.e. that bit of society that is not the state or market.
> *  The bulk of the voluntary / community sector is a small group with
> little or no money but you'd never guess from how it is talked about by both
> government and related opinion formers who can only appeal for the sector to
> modernize, run cheaper formerly state services, help out with community
> cohesion etc etc.
> *  I am keen to look at how the bulk of the sector - small community groups
> are actually about a deeper democratic practice, beyond the ballot box, and
> that organizes, educates, at times agitates,
> *  The potential for the community sector / informal parts of civil society
> is to be leading in the setting a progressive agenda and not be seen as a
> poor relation of the state and more corporate parts of the voluntary sector.
> *  Because I've worked in the sector for 20 odd years I know what I mean
> about all of this but for many activists and progressively / radically
> minded people I think the community sector is often a bit unknown and not
> seen as the resource that it could be for social change - so making the
> connections amongst ourselves is key and I'm always keen to discuss with
> people
>
> Matt
>
> Matthew Scott
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> CSC Director
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> 020 7336 9461
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> From: Mark Barrett [mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com]
> Sent: 09 September 2009 22:50
> To: campaignforrealdemocracy at lists.aktivix.org;
> project2012 at googlegroups.com; 21st-century-network at googlegroups.com;
> peopleincommon at lists.riseup.net
> Subject: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] CSC & CRD
>
> I thought some might be interested in the CSC's Stragegy Doc, PDF attached.
>
> One quote I found there stuck out:
>
> "Today, many people feel that civil society and its' local associations
> aren't very important. Instead, they think what really matters are big
> institutions like corporations, health systems and governments. However,
> what makes a democracy isn't its institutions. Rather, it is citizens
> working in their clubs, groups, organizations and associations that make a
> democracy. The heart of democracy is the free space where people form their
> own associations to provide care, advocacy and community. Without this vital
> centre, democracies become hollow and institutions become oppressive and
> unresponsive. And people lose their citizenship by becoming nothing more
> than clients and consumers."
> John McKnight of the Asset Based Development<
> http://processarts.wagn.org/wagn/Asset_Based_Community_Development>
> Institute, Chicago
>
> My thanks to Matthew Scott of CRD Campaign for Real Democracy and CSC for
> sending me this. Maybe we can develop some good working ties with CSC in the
> coming years. I will ask Francis at 21st Century Network (21CN) if we can
> include CSC in a coming Meet Up.
>
> More info on 21CN is at http://www.meetup.com/21stCenturyNetwork, for
> those who have not heard of it.
>
> All the best
> Mark
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