[Campaignforrealdemocracy] Fwd: Community-Led Plans: do any exist?

Sat Aug 7 19:20:54 UTC 2010

anyone know of one? (somehow i doubt it)..

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From: Edwards Michael <m.edwards at ucl.ac.uk>
Date: 7 August 2010 15:39
Subject: Fwd: Community-Led Plans: do any exist?
To: pnuk at gla.ac.uk

To PNUK list:  Nick Bailey at Westinster University queried as follows
and if you have any useful leads for him do contact him direct.
"...writing an article on ‘community-led plans’ for any urban examples
where local communities have prepared a local/action plan for their
area?  My view is that the relationships vary and very often local
communities start by identifying needs, persuade the LA to prepare a
plan and then work closely with the LA in preparing a plan.  Do you
know of any areas where the local community has actually prepared a
plan or had a major input to a statutory document?
Read on only if you are wanting to see the exchange so far.  The
essence is above.  Michael
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From: Nick Bailey <baileyn at westminster.ac.uk>
Date: 5 August 2010 18:25:23 GMT+01:00
To: Edwards Michael <m.edwards at ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Community-Led Plans: do any exist?

Michael,

Many thanks for some very useful suggestions.

Nick

Nick Bailey
Professor of Urban Regeneration
School of Architecture & the Built Environment
University of Westminster
35 Marylebone Road
London NW1 5LS

T: +44(0) 207 911 5000 ext. 3117
F: +44(0) 207 911 5171
E: baileyn at westminster.ac.uk
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From: Edwards Michael [mailto:m.edwards at ucl.ac.uk]
Sent: 05 August 2010 12:21
To: Nick Bailey
Cc: Michael Parkes; Michael Parkes
Subject: Re: Community-Led Plans: do any exist?

                                    Mike P:  this is reply to Nick
Bailey at U of W     Can you help?

Dear Nick

Interesting query but I have nothing positive to suggest.  I don't
know of a single case where "the community" has initiated a plan and
got anywhere with it, with or without help from their LPA.

There may have been some cases somewhere in the UK. It would be good
news.   Mike Parkes at PAL might know (and I'm copying this to him).

King's Cross DOES NOT represent an example.  In the early 1990s the
community prepared some alternative plans, with major technical
support from Mike Parkes (references below).  No help from the local
planning authority.  Never implemented.  But these community plans
(and the planning application which embodied them) served the
important role of giving the applicants (KXRLG) a more substantial
standing with the LPA and would have done so crucially had there been
a public inquiry.

The famous cases are in New York City where there is some special
legislation which empowers 'communities' to come up with plans. The
expert on this is Prof Tom Angotti
http://urban.hunter.cuny.edu/~tangotti/  and he's written about it.

Why don't we send the query round to pnuk  ?  Someone there will know
if this has ever happened.

Michael
Parkes, M (1990)   Kings Cross Railway Lands A People’s Brief, London: KXRLG

--- (1991)   Kings Cross Railway Lands:  towards a people's Plan, London: KXRLG

Parkes, M, D Mouawad and KXRLG (1993)   Interim Uses Initiative, London: KXRLG

On 5 Aug 2010, at 09:44, Nick Bailey wrote:

Mike,

I wondered if you can help?

I’ve been asked by someone writing an article on ‘community-led plans’
for any urban examples where local communities have prepared a
local/action plan for their area?  My view is that the relationships
vary and very often local communities start by identifying needs,
persuade the LA to prepare a plan and then work closely with the LA in
preparing a plan.

Do you know of any areas where the local community has actually
prepared a plan or had a major input to a statutory document? Does
Kings Cross fall into this category?

Do you know of any written sources discussing ‘community-led plans’?

Hope all is well – have a good summer.

Nick

Nick Bailey
Professor of Urban Regeneration
School of Architecture & the Built Environment
University of Westminster
35 Marylebone Road
London NW1 5LS

T: +44(0) 207 911 5000 ext. 3117
F: +44(0) 207 911 5171
E: baileyn at westminster.ac.uk
W: www.westminster.ac.uk/sabe

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