[Campaignforrealdemocracy] Election Mob RED ALERT Possible Important HACKNEY Meetings 9th March and 14th March

Tue Mar 2 20:42:57 UTC 2010

  all on standby for hackney meeting eve of tues 9th march please:

*re peoples assembly possibility in hackney*

for everyone's info, at the moment the election meltdown peoples assembly
working group are committed to writing an inclusive peoples assembly call
out, for use in the run up to the election. this should be done by the
middle or end of this week.

one idea is that this be drafted in such a way that it could go out
generally to community groups around the country, to maybe inspire them to
act, but at the same time if hackney solidarity network (HSN) are up for it
we can really go for it with them so people elsewhere can see what's
involved. southwark people are also interested (thanks for messages rachael
and lili), which is great so maybe after one in hackney there could be
another one in southwark, and then from there on to parliament square!

basic concept of call out would be to invite people to come together
pre-election to consider the many local issues, but also to make the link
between these and the wider (eg national and global) struggles. and would be
great to have artistic input on this too so space girl and co please take
note. date for peoples' assembly would probably be sunday april 4th,  or
sunday march 28th 2-5pm

there is also date of sunday 14th march which is HSN film night where
shaun's film on peoples' assembly will be shown at MOTH club Hackney

mark
(more info on all this below)

forwarded message
ok we were planning a Hackney Independent meeting on Tuesday 9th march and a
few of us were already commited to that so I suggest that is mutated into a
mega HSN activists/EM meeting to talk about the peoples assembly idea for an
hour say 7.30 till 8.30 and then leave an hour for just HI/HSN people??? the
MOTH is free but waiting for confirmation. sure ether is options if a
problem :)

rsvp asap please :)

(glyn)
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Subject: RE: Hackney peoples assembly Possibility - letter to HSN people AND
EM and TSSN and other people re urgent hackney meeting
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:09:29 +0000

Hi HSN people

The idea of peoples assemblies came up briefly at the last HSN meeting and
was raised at the film show in January. There are now proposals for a
peoples assembly on May 1st in Parliament Square being progressed outside of
HAckney and an idea for a inaugural one in Hackney in early April. the next
film show will finish on a discussion about peoples assemblies and how they
worked in COP15. See below for some discssuion that has already been held.
AFAIAC only a big HSN meeting could decide to progress this and if we got a
good turnout at the 14th that could decide for a meeting on the sunday 4th
april and see reply from me last night below

And Hi all

So I suggest a few of us have an urgent meeting in hackney in the week
before the 14th for an hours or so, i can upstairs at the MOTH at short or
we can just do baxters ..  i suggest tuesday 9th march ..

cheers glyn

___________________________________________________________________________________________

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your below message. I will go to the next TTSN (Transition Towns
Stoke Newington) meeting and promote the PAs campaign and the Sunday the
14th film night.

It will probably be difficult to get consensus to come as a group at the
Hackney PA given the reluctance of some people to co-operate/associate with
other groups but it's definitely worth the effort. It goes with out saying I
guess that in the EM I only represent myself and not TTST, I just don't want
to create any expectations.. :)

I can also happily go out in the neighbourhood closer to the day and speak
with local shop owners and the turkish community to join and/or put posters
in their shops.

I will be away from 10-22 of March so I will miss both the next meeting/the
film night/the 11th Mar action but we'll sure be in touch.

Take care/all the best
Dimitra x
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Hi all had a long chat with Tim earlier after talking to shaun .. it is a
possibility but must come not from you or me but from the meeting on the
14th afaiac  .. we are up to our necks and any more work is pretty untenable
.. we will need to see people at that meeting giving commitment to do most
of the work .. i would be happy to contact all the hackney people i know
then .. waiting for shaun to get details tomorrow and we can send that out
then :)

cheers glyn :)

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 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:16:38 +0000
Subject: Re: Hackney Possibility
From: marknbarrett at googlemail.com
To: dspatharidou at gmail.com; glynrhys68 at hotmail.com; shaundey at artserve.net;
governmentofthedead at gmail.com; tim.dalinian.jones at googlemail.com;
steveburaklondon at yahoo.com

thanks for the message dimitra (ttsn is transition towns stoke newington for
the others in working group from sunday, + shaun and glyn cc/d for info hope
that's okay. have a good trip and speak again soon :-)

On 2 March 2010 01:08, Dimitra Spatharidou <dspatharidou at googlemail.com>wrote:

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your below message. I will go to the next TTSN meeting and
promote the PAs campaign and the Sunday the 14th film night.

It will probably be difficult to get consensus to come as a group at the
Hackney PA given the reluctance of some people to co-operate/associate with
other groups but it's definitely worth the effort. It goes with out saying I
guess that in the EM I only represent myself and not TTST, I just don't want
to create any expectations.. :)

I can also happily go out in the neighbourhood closer to the day and speak
with local shop owners and the turkish community to join and/or put posters
in their shops.

I will be away from 10-22 of March so I will miss both the next meeting/the
film night/the 11th Mar action but we'll sure be in touch.

Take care/all the best
Dimitra x

On 1 March 2010 07:33, Mark Barrett <marknbarrett at googlemail.com> wrote:

Hi Everyone

Just to confirm that at the Foundry meeting a proposal was made to ask
Hackney Solidarity if they would like to co-facilitate an inaugural People's
Assembly, in a building tbc in Hackney to get started the Peoples Assembly
election resistance campaign, and ongoing decision making processes
going. Date originally proposed was Sunday March 28th. Having talked with
Glyn it seems the idea could work, only it might need to be a bit later, say
Easter Sunday April 4th - which is quite symbolic.

Problem with that is that some people do go away for the Easter
Weekend. Anyway the overall thing needs to come from HS and others
interested to make it happen in Hackney so let's see where that goes this
week.  Obviously Glyn needs to ask the rest of the HS network, and also lots
of logistical and practical questions would need to be resolved

Worth noting this could follow on nicely from the HS film night planned at
the MOTH Club on the eve of Sunday 14th. Glyn or Shaun, please send the
details on the Film night so we can Facebook it and promote (with a brief
mention of the possibility of the 1st PA flowiong on from it) and let's
speak again soon.

Mark

PS Thanks to Tim and others we already have lots of possible fliers ready
for use to promote any such event, plus I'm sure we can get a few helpers in
to get the thing well advertised. Merlin, Chris and I will work on an
invite over the next 48 hours, but in the meantime what do people think?

PPS  The more inclusive the better, but if it flies some people I thought we
might like to get involved in promoting / on the day include:

 Hackney Solidarity
LCAP (Glyn?)
Stoke Newington Transition Towns (Dimitra?)
The People Speak for livestream possibility (Saul?)
Local Radio (Harriet?)
Other Local Press
Local Quakers and other religious groups ?
Turkish / Other Communities ?
WAG ?
Tango Commute (Thomas?)

So there are lots of interesting possibilities !

On 1 March 2010 07:16, Elizabeth Power <power1931 at googlemail.com> wrote:

Mark

give me dates/details re the Hackney proposed event and we can facebook that
one

ranting rabbit

Re the beginnings of our core principles, attached pls find the CJA Network
Principles that today's meeting attenders are being asked to support. Link
to same is here http://www.climate-justice-action.org/about/about-cja/
Also we have our core themes from last year's meltdown of war, climate,
money crimes and land / housing to consider

Re election posters

  saw reference in the papers to this site today www.davidcameron.com (in
context of Brown's resurgence in the polls). I
particularly liked this one: http://www.mydavidcameron.com/posters4/iht2
Had a thought on this: following Class War's recent contribution, what about
posters playing on this with words like eg "Bankers" (or even "Hands in the
Till" or something similar about criminal expenses )?

3. For the Peoples Assembly - how about a poster which features mug shots of
all four corpses (Cameron, Brown, Clegg and midget Griffin), all lined up on
one poster, with the exact font from Obama's campaign subverted to "Change
you Can't Believe In" as a banner across them?

About Peoples Assemblies - in case you missed this, some ideas so far are:

>Over the course of recent meetings, one of the things that has
> regularly been discussed, and towards which we appear to be edging, is the
> facilitation of one or more UK-based Peoples' Assemblies, both as part
> of the election resistance and in response to the international call out
> from CJA after Copenhagen.
>
> At yesterday's meeting, which will continue later today, the following
> points arose which we would like to communicate to you.
>
> First, as a group, we hope to:
>
> (1) show solidarity by signing up to the CJA Network's Goals, Principles
for
> Working Together and Call to Action as set out at
> http://www.climate-justice-action.org/about/about-cja/ and attenders are
> reading them tonight so we may reach consensus on this tomorrow.
>
> (2) more broadly reach out to other socially and environmentally engaged
> groups in 2010, to offer a platform around the Peoples' Assembly in the UK
>
> *The Peoples' Assembly*
> **
> We are still in the process of considering carefully where, when, what and
> how to go about setting up Peoples' Assemblies in 2010. I've set out our
> rough plans so far on this at the bottom of the following list of ideas
> /points / questions on PAs that came up at yesterday's meeting.
>
> (1) PAs should be essentially about the opening up of sovereign space
within
> which the usual hegemonic logic of state and capital cannot operate,
because
> only within such a free space can transformed social and environmental
> relationships prevail.
>
> (2) this could be called a reclaiming of the commons,
>
> (3) A philosophy of non-violence and a definite vegan attitude at PAs?
>
> (4) PAs may need to be defended
>
> (5) PAs must go beyond conversations with other people in the movement, to
> touch, engage with and include the wider public.
>
> (6) PAs should be a rising civil society (third international) model to
that
> of state and capital
>
> (7) PAs should be about space, inclusion, independence and
interdependence,
> sovereignty, equality, spontaneity, talking through and listening on
issues
> of relevance to ordinary people, a climate of change, creativity,
> self-expression, new social relations (food share as ritual?) and an
> inspiring spur to collective action.
>
> (8) PAs should help to bring together local groups, and individuals (for
> direct democracy), to unite local and global struggles to mobilise further
> together, to build real networks grounded in place, to show 'this is what
> democracy looks like'
>
> (9) system change not climate change
>
> (10) reclaim power!
>
> *The UK Election Peoples Assembly*
>
> A possibility here is for there to be one or more Peoples Assemblies
leading up to the parade and then big peoplesi assembly / democracy village
occupation in Parliament Square in the first week of May...

On 1 March 2010 07:04, Mark Barrett <marknbarrett at googlemail.com> wrote:
> this is the stuff we need, because it's right but also because the
anti-war
> movement people need our support. re our core principles comes under "war"
> if the four horses from april1st 2009 are still about war, money crimes,
> climate and land / housing. thanks for this mhari!
> x
>
> On 27 February 2010 15:49, yodet gherez <guditta at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> hey there good people hope you're all well :-)
>> i just wanted to throw out a few thoughts seeing as unfortunately i can't
>> be there tomorrow!
>>
>> Something I think is important to talk about & include is
>> Anti-Imperialism, as one of the objectives of this gathering & action;
that
>> part of what we should/could oppose is the imperialist (& racist) actions
of
>> our government including the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan, the witch hunt
of
>> Muslims both domestically & internationally - especially recently with
the
>> horrendous prison sentences given to young people who participated in the
>> demo for Gaza last january - most of them Muslims; linked to this too is
the
>> demonisation of Immigrants, Refugees & Asylum Seekers.
>>
>> I think that these issues are of grave importance, and are bound up with
>> the oppressive actions our government continues to exact upon people,
>> particularly people 'on the bottom'. I think too its important to address
>> these issues, alongside Class issues, otherwise we risk alienating or
>> excluding, albeit not intentionally, People Of Colour (I say that in the
>> political sense).
>>
>> I think too, it would be good to reach out to folks on the bottom, people
>> of colour, share our thinking more around this Action; see what folks
think,
>> gather their input, thoughts, feelings, perspectives & idea's for action.
I
>> think this would/will be a challenge, from my small experience, there are
>> divisions & is distrust & struggles to build relationships across our
>> respective differences; but think it would be important to explore this.
One
>> group for example which I thought it could be good to speak with, is the
>> Latin American Youth Forum which Paula is working with? Perhaps as one
place
>> to start? Paula what do you think?
>>
>> I hope am not being presumptious with this, not at all, just some
>> thoughts, and ofcourse I haven't yet been able to make the meetings as
yet -
>> but think that these are key key things to think about and act upon.....
>>
>> if i think of anything else i'll drop a message - is all my brain has
come
>> up with as of yet!
>>
>> am off to go cook some tea, Love Luck & Revolution y'all!!
>>
>> here's a pressie, one of my fave Irish Folk songs!
>>
>> Enjoy comrades, sisters, brothers & friends! :-) xxxxx
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