[Campaignforrealdemocracy] Wed Assembly

Elizabeth Power power1931 at googlemail.com
Tue Aug 9 21:37:41 UTC 2011


If there is not enthusiasm for trying to assemble on P Square, then I will
not call it...but a message has gone out from Phoenix I believe (or via
Phoenix), so some people may go to the Square. I do not know who decided on
that.

My thought was that this is a good time to be bold and central in a lawful
and peaceful way, plus the police are far too busy! Plus we should show
political will to demonstrate the illegitimacy of the government that is
hated and detested. People who feel insecure about coming there, I
understand. but I think there is no difference in risk between being at P Sq
(from 5ish to 7) compared to the 15M situation at RFH (which s proposed for
later in the evening and therefore people would be going back after dark,
which is riskier). As usual, P Sq has far more symbolic resonance, whereas
the point of coming to Festival Hall is less obvious.

I have not messaged out the facebook groups at this stage, and do not see
anyone has. There seems too much confusion. WE may go to the square to
discuss the situation with whoever turns up, and work out a better plan.

On 9 August 2011 17:54, Hugo de Armas Estevez <hugocologico at gmail.com>wrote:

> I am agree with Victor. We can talk about the situation much better at the
> Royal Festival Hall. It is a quiet, safe and well connected place to meet.
> Maybe, we may talk to do something this weekend in any affected borough, if
> we'd have a "safety place" to do it of course.
>
> We have to be very cautious, with 16000 police force in London, the
> capital looks more a second world war city than the XXI London. The
> situation is out of control, so this is a fantastic excuse for any
> government to do whatever.
>
> See you tomorrow
>
> Hugo
> 2011/8/9 Mark Barrett <marknbarrett at googlemail.com>
>
>> I heard some people are calling a People's Assembly for tomorrow in
>> Parliament Square, for 5pm ? Pls confirm where this will take place as the
>> fences are still up as far as I know. Also, fyi: the next (weekly)
>> Spanish Revolution 15M London assembly will be on Wednesday, 7.30 at the
>> Royal Festival Hall, 4th floor, blue zone.
>>
>> On 9 August 2011 15:35, Sammy Shummo <sshummo at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Parliament Square sounds great. What time?
>>> Sammy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Elizabeth Power <power1931 at googlemail.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 14:28:59
>>> To: <strikersassembly at googlegroups.com>
>>> Cc: <democracyvillage at googlegroups.com>; <
>>> campaignforrealdemocracy at lists.aktivix.org>; <
>>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] Wed Assembly
>>>
>>> HI
>>>
>>>
>>> what do people think of taking Assembly to Parliament Square this Weds,
>>> tomorrow?
>>>
>>>
>>> Camilla
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 August 2011 01:07, Mark Barrett <marknbarrett at googlemail.com<mailto:
>>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com> > wrote:
>>>  PS this looks like becoming a trend. could be a great way to get 15m
>>> going in london: "Start something! Get Twitter to bring sensible people to
>>> affected areas on, say, Thursday. Call it #riotcleanup <
>>> http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23riotcleanup> "
>>>
>>>
>>> let's get it trending ..
>>>
>>> love
>>> mark
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 9 August 2011 00:26, <marknbarrett at googlemail.com <mailto:
>>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com> > wrote:
>>>  Hi Hugo! Agree with you and Andy - would be great to discuss. I'd
>>> propose as possibilities for discussion 1 convening an end of aug open
>>> planning meeting to prepare for oct 15 mobilisation 2 campaigning for local
>>> assemblies in context / response to riots and 3 preparing a flier for oct 15
>>> across london. Just a few ideas what do others think ? Love Mark
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> From:  Hugo de Armas Estevez <hugocologico at gmail.com <mailto:
>>> hugocologico at gmail.com> >
>>> Sender:  trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:38:54 +0100
>>> To: <trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com> >
>>> ReplyTo:  trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Re : Fwd: Today's Assembly
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes that's a fantastic movement! We have to go straight ahead to
>>> Tottenham, Maybe we have to discuss this in the next assembly this Wednesday
>>> in the 15M assembly.
>>>
>>> See you around
>>>
>>> Hugo
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/8/8 pilar . <pcano78 at hotmail.com <mailto:pcano78 at hotmail.com> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brilliant guys! well done. I am glad you went to Tottenham, would have
>>> loved to be there but unfortunately I am in Barcelona.
>>>
>>> Lots of love and carry on!
>>>
>>> pilar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>>  Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 03:24:39 -0700
>>> From: bastosjuliaborges at yahoo.com.br <mailto:
>>> bastosjuliaborges at yahoo.com.br>
>>>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Re : Fwd: Today's Assembly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To: trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> This experience was really important! Congratulations to everbody. I
>>> agree with Mark, the local contacts are necessary to the comunite start
>>> organize and tothenam can be a good place for the local assembly, let me
>>> know what do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> See you,
>>>
>>> Júlia Borges
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/08/2011, at 23:52, marknbarrett at googlemail.com <mailto:
>>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Sofia - we had a good experience in Tottenham today, and we hope to
>>> review what happened and discuss next steps here very soon. In brief, our
>>> low key assembly was joined by quite a few people from the local area, and
>>> for a while a good discussion took place. Contacts were made, and I think
>>> the plan is to return to the area very soon, more later Love and Solidarity
>>> - onwards the 15M! Mark
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> From: sofia sofia <sofiazissi at hotmail.com <mailto:sofiazissi at hotmail.com>
>>> >
>>> Sender: trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 20:03:39 +0000
>>> To: <trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com> >
>>> ReplyTo: trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>> Subject: RE: Re : Fwd: Today's Assembly
>>>
>>>
>>> I see you guys went to Tottenham... Please let us know what you decided
>>> for next meeting!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>>  Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 13:43:50 +0100
>>> Subject: Re: Re : Fwd: Today's Assembly
>>> From:  <mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com> marknbarrett at googlemail.com<mailto:
>>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com>
>>>  To:  <mailto:trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes i think we can't move the assembly but some of us are going to meet
>>> at seven sisters tube and go talk to people, maybe they would like to  set
>>> up an assembly there in the future (as you suggest) and/or start a
>>> mobilisation for oct15th.
>>>
>>> anyway, let's see what happens....
>>>
>>> love and soldarity
>>>
>>> mark
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 7 August 2011 13:39, sofia sofia < <mailto:sofiazissi at hotmail.com>
>>> sofiazissi at hotmail.com <mailto:sofiazissi at hotmail.com> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> this is great but the assembly ppl need to know and respond to this email
>>> to make sure they are aware and agree
>>>
>>>
>>> Trafalgar would be better for me as i work near there every weekend , but
>>> since i can come for 1 hour only... i dont matter much...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>>  Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 13:30:49 +0100
>>> Subject: Re: Re : Fwd: Today's Assembly
>>> From:  <mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com> marknbarrett at googlemail.com<mailto:
>>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com>
>>>  To:  <mailto:strikersassembly at googlegroups.com>
>>> strikersassembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>>> strikersassembly at googlegroups.com> ;  <mailto:
>>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com> ;  <mailto:
>>> democracyvillage at googlegroups.com> democracyvillage at googlegroups.com<mailto:
>>> democracyvillage at googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OK so the idea is to go together to meet and talk with people and maybe
>>> call a street meeting.
>>>
>>> It's really easy to get to being a few mins walk from Seven Sisters tube.
>>> We will be meeting at 6pm at Seven Sisters tube exit (not the mainline train
>>> exit, which is round the corner).
>>>
>>> Maybe we can give an organised space for people to air their views and to
>>> share some of what has been going on in Spain, Greece and Israel (camps on
>>> the streets and popular assemblies).
>>> Please let people you know who might be interested, especially anyone
>>> living locally.
>>>   On 7 August 2011 13:23, Andy Paice < <mailto:andypaice at yahoo.fr>
>>> andypaice at yahoo.fr <mailto:andypaice at yahoo.fr> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  I wholeheartedly agree!
>>> I think we should join with others to go to the area and at least discuss
>>> betwen ourselves if there is a possibility of setting something up there.
>>> "A riot is the language of the unheard" - Martin Luther King
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> --- En date de : Dim 7.8.11, Mark Barrett < <mailto:
>>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com> marknbarrett at googlemail.com <mailto:
>>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com> > a écrit :
>>>
>>> De: Mark Barrett < <mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com>
>>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com <mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com> >
>>>
>>>  Objet: Fwd: Today's Assembly
>>> À: "strikersassembly" < <mailto:strikersassembly at googlegroups.com>
>>> strikersassembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>>> strikersassembly at googlegroups.com> >
>>>
>>>  Date: Dimanche 7 août 2011, 13h43
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone I've just spoken with Glyn who's in Tottenham now at the
>>> scene of last night's disturbances. The whole area is presently closed to
>>> traffic which makes it an excellent place for a street meeting, a local
>>> assembly if you like and obviously everyone there is talking about what has
>>> happened. It's really easy to get to being a few mins walk from Seven
>>> Sisters tube. I propose to call an assembly there for 6pm tonight and I have
>>> asked that the planned sunday assembly (whose topic of discussion today was
>>> setting up local london assemblies) gets moved up there from the  Royal
>>> Festival Hall / Trafalgar. What do people think - whose  up for it ? Mark
>>>
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