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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Happy to try and see about this<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes there is a body of people who have this
interest, which would include the CSC (Community Sector Coalition) members –
in particular your 5 points connect with two areas that are live for the
voluntary / community sector – namely the work in part sponsored by DEFRA
and related statutory bods on climate change (where there is frustration and
hope in equal measures about going beyond narrow top down and individual behaviour
change models to collective action and social justice rooted action; and also
the democracy / localism angle is for me, absolutely key to what the community
sector is all about, albeit the contract culture / service delivery mantra has
created a division in our sector so that increasingly voluntary sector groups
define themselves in narrow professional criteria which is not helpful. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Taking it forward, one thing is how
geographically located is this union of democratic localists? Is it
primarily <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">London</st1:place></st1:City>?
That will make a difference – CSC is national and because I live in <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">London</st1:City></st1:place> I have range of local
contacts here. Secondly I think the voluntary / community sector identity
can take a bit of working through, which will need a bit of attention.
Personally I connect what I do in the sector in very broad social terms whereby
everything relates to political structures but I believe it is sadly often the
case that community / voluntary sector workers struggle to make the connections
with wider activist campaigns being the same common cause as theirs; so in
order to reap the benefits a bit of chatting through how it all fits together,
where goals and objectives unite is usually required so everyone gets it.
All a bit obvious but worth considering. I am keen to take this forward
so lets follow up soon<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 14 September 2009 12:08<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re:
[Campaignforrealdemocracy] [project2012] Community Networking</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I'm trying to work out a way in which the Project 2012 / CRD work can
connect effectively with these networks. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I know you're only subscribed to CRD list, which has a more reduced
traffic but the Project 2012 list has been humming with good ideas and
debate over the last 6 months and there's been, especially in the first period
of discussion a reasonable level of agreement about structural changes
(some of which I mentioned to you at our meeting at the Royal Festival Hall)
that would be good to put out to a wider audience for deliberation. (More
recently we've been debating values and taxation and how to connect
these two to the proposals for structural change but that is all still quite
open-ended) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Matt do you think there is a body of people who you could connect with
who would be interested to develop an alternative civil society manifesto
for real political and economic power at the local community
level. Something with the aims of, say <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>1. challenging the politicians rhetoric on decentralisation with a
clear set of proposals for a decentralised sovereignty (by pointing out the gap
between what they are taling about and what the policies they support will
actually achieve) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2. maintain and develop a level of critical and operational
independence and pursue the same for everyone <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>3. possibly fighting for some strategic seats in local /
general / other elections after GE 2010 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>4. encourage greater (ie real) democracy amongst all its members <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>5 challenge and attract activists, from transition towns to climate
camp and beyond to help out with direct action / electioneering as they feel
comfortable..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Something akin to a <st1:place w:st="on">Union</st1:place> for
Democratic Localists with the desire to join together across the regions..?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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12.0pt'>2009/9/14 <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Matthew Scott</st1:PersonName> <<a
href="mailto:Matt@communitysectorcoalition.org.uk">Matt@communitysectorcoalition.org.uk</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi Mark<br>
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Community Matters are a well established national community umbrella org - they
have around 1,000 members, typically community centres are their core
supporters / constituency so there is a strong local connection. Likewise
CM is part of the Community Alliance which is a significant force in the sector
around the idea of community 'anchors' - i.e. local multi purpose
infrastructure. CA are also one of my members, i.e. of the Community
Sector Coalition. Yes they are funded by government, as are most community
orgs at that level and would not, I think, see themselves as the 'opposition'
or as a counter hegemonic block (for those of you who know about the 'in and
against the state' work of the early 1980s), so the idea of revolution is a tad
rhetorical in my view, but there is a very strong connection with local
communities and a strong interest in the civil as opposed to civic sphere and
in deeper local democracy and there is a critical and independent element to it<br>
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Matt<br>
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Subject: Re: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] [project2012] Community Networking<br>
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Hi Matt and All<br>
<br>
Thanks for this Steve.<br>
<br>
Matt, and others, what are your thoughts on Community Matters? I note<br>
their Leicester AGM, titled "Planning the Revolution" is taking place<br>
this weekend, and that it is co-sponsored by the government and costs<br>
upwards of 70 pounds to attend.<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
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2009/9/12 Steve Gwynne <<a href="mailto:satoritree@yahoo.co.uk">satoritree@yahoo.co.uk</a>>:<br>
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> Possibly another community network to liase with.<br>
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