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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Echo the points about local area forums –
I think the key thing for me is that they are council controlled but present
themselves as benign people led spaces (which they ain’t) because power
and control lies with the local state; but being canny about it there are, I
agree links to be made with frustrated councilors – but bear in mind the
party political machine, this is a dangerous game but can be exploited at time
of local elections – summer 2010; Lewisham where I live and worked for a
long time, is particularly opportune to this kind of pressure given it has no
over all control (as a result of a local swimming pool campaign – google ladywell
pool for an enlightening story of local action that saw 2 wards go Green in
2006 and Labour lose an outright majority for the first time since 1972 or
similar) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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authorities but lets talk more about what our non negotiables are because as
James says there is a lot of ‘charade’ and sham in what they
are up to and a real desperation to exploit all and any local community action
and then close the space down – apologies for being a cynic in this
regard but I think the local state is inherently toxic in this regard and we
can exploit its huge democratic deficit by realising they and it needs us far
far more than we need them<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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hats I wear – such as London CD workers network, look forward to meeting
up<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Mark Barrett
[mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 11 October 2009 21:07<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">campaignforrealdemocracy@lists.aktivix.org</st1:PersonName>;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">project2012@googlegroups.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re:
[Campaignforrealdemocracy] campaign real democracy - actually starting to
campaign!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi James<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks for the update! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>From my side of things:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Here in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Southgate</st1:place></st1:City>
I am continuing to work on developing a long term partnership between
residents, traders, educational establishments, human rights and
humanist/faith groups, encouraging them to come together for the
accessible idea of a democratically run, and community owned street market
on a small but suitable patch of pavement. From there, for me it is a
short skip towards real local sovereignty - which I always mention in the same
context - because the right to run a street market and receive the
rental income from it (rather than it going to the Council) is a form of
sovereignty in itself. A community owned asset..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>And so I agree 100% it's about working with people you wouldn't
normally consider as allies. So far I've got some support for
the idea but I need to develop it further. Luckily I've been offered some
collaboration with <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Southgate</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>, who are
stationed right next to the site in question, so fingers crossed that will be
a plus to the campaign's potential.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Local Area Forums, which you mention are definitely in need of
democratisation and if they are like the ones up here they cover three wards.
So far I've found LAFs relatively good for info gathering (altho by no
means perfect) and quite frustrating in other ways. There maybe room
for common cause around the issue of over centralisation - half the time
it seems that both Cllrs AND residents are equally frustrated by Westminster's
huge powers over and so it's hard to feel anything other than it all being a
big talk shop; an exercise in Council being seen to be doing the right
thing but actually not that effective because no real powers. As with
consultations it's al quite top down. If you have some allies and can present
yourselves as a decent sized coalition defintely consider pushing them to sit
in the democratic fashion in a circle and all - can't wait to hear how you get
on!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Also there is now the possibility in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">London</st1:place></st1:City> to create your own parish council
althought I think that's quite a procedural obstacle course. Might be worth
looking into though as PC's can raise there own revenue via taxation (ie in our
case, democratically agree ie non compulsory
subscription). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Other stuff moving forward:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>(1) Theatre Project with Teresa Hoskyns and a number of pro-theatre
people aimed at getting schools involved in the great issues via
the old Greek democratic idea of Agon Theatre.. we are applying to do a show at
the GLA Scoop Space and have some schools on board already<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>(2) Local version of 21st Century Network in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Enfield</st1:place></st1:City> to bolster the other work that's
going on. Francis and I are developing 'Make Politics Matter' initiative
with local schools to get them interested in political issues and community
action / sovereignty and tap into their creativity and we're getting interest from
schools across the Borough. Email me for more info on this! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>(3) Dec 2 Real Democracy and Right to the City meeting with 21CN;
speaking Matt Scott of CRD and Community Sector Coalition, Teresa Hoskyns of
Queens Market defence group, Project 2012 and me. We hope to make this a
launch for a Civil Society union event in 2010 around the idea of Local
Sovereignty. Glad to have yr support - register at <a
href="http://www.meetup.com/21stCenturyNetwork/">http://www.meetup.com/21stCenturyNetwork/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>(4) I would like to link the local work I am doing with the Transition
Towns initiative - be grateful of someone could put me in touch
with anyone suitable in North London to talk me through what's involved.
Also, did you see the flier for 21st Nov I put round earlier. See attached. I
think it would be good to have a CRD presence there and I'm talking to Matt
about this in the context of our planned event for next year and maybe
making a short presentation there. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>(5) Great to hear about the Climate Camp plans!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Mark <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2009/10/11 James Holland <<a href="mailto:james@dogmanet.org"
target="_blank">james@dogmanet.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hello CRD
people. I've been really quiet on this list recently because I've been actually
starting to do some campaigning groundwork for building some examples of real
democracy. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>As the
climate camp was in SE london, I have some connections in the area and there
are loads of inspiring grassroots campaigns going on; I have moved into the
area and have spent the last few weeks meeting with transition towns, anti
gentrification campaigns, labour struggles, anti school closure groups,
residents associations, community forums etc etc. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I've
learned loads already including that you have to be more pragmatic about who
you work with and how, and to look beyond people''s labels and affiliations.
There's good people everywhere! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> I'm
focusing my efforts generally on lewisham and southwark, but also on particular
areas within those boroughs. both of these boroughs have council-created forums
that cover a small area (1 ward or slightly larger) that i think are good
targets to try and increase their democracy (open agendas, using consensus,
encouraging more people to be involved) but also gradually taking more power.
the first steps are to talk to people already involved in these structures and
find out what's already happening, then probably to get them to use some of
their budgets to increase participation, a<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I'm
planning to build on the definition I sent out before which was something like
- real democracy is when all the people of a community take complete and equal
control for doing everything their community needs, (and no one has any power
to say what other communities should do.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I can
also report that there is an idea within climate camp to arrange something for
the lead up to the election to expose the charade of democracy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 color="#888888" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:#888888'>james holland<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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