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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Saw Jack Dromey – the union leader -
at a recent 21<sup>st</sup> century network event on immigration and his
message was very much about how the tabloid media had created an inaccurate negative
view of migrants. The reality being that open borders help our economy
stay competitive and of course have a moral component. So here is an
example of how a constant drip drip of poisonous populism has meant creating positive
stories about such issues are all but impossible for most prospective
parliamentary candidates, because it will lose them votes (and they tend to
lack the courage to buck what the focus groups tell them will work).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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localists might feel like saying bring it on, but for me I think a lot of our
politics is already shaped in a very crude media market place already, where
the most vulnerable are blamed and vilified, so I am not sure something like X
factor has the depth and commitment to effect real and lasting change.
But maybe it’s a case of one world ready or not<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Chris Kennett
[mailto:chriskennett01@hotmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 December 2009 09:17<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> mariastellanash@yahoo.com;
reclaiming-spaces@listi.jpberlin.de; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">campaignforrealdemocracy@lists.aktivix.org</st1:PersonName>;
marknbarrett@googlemail.com; Matthew Scott<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE:
[Campaignforrealdemocracy] Peoples Assemblies Everywhere Fwd: [climate09-int]
Video: The People's Assembly</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi Matt<br>
<br>
Simon Powel was on newsnight in the last 2weeks .He went up in my ratings when
he started talking about power to the people.He suggested he would like to set
something up so that individuals had a voice in politics.He mentioned he was
dismayed and disgusted by current events such as the "Afghan war" and
other things like fox hunting.<br>
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Not sure how sincere he was but he did seem very plausible.<br>
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Seasons greetings.<br>
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chris kennett<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:54:04
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From: mariastellanash@yahoo.com<br>
To: reclaiming-spaces@listi.jpberlin.de; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">campaignforrealdemocracy@lists.aktivix.org</st1:PersonName>;
marknbarrett@googlemail.com; Matt@communitysectorcoalition.org.uk<br>
Subject: Re: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] Peoples Assemblies Everywhere Fwd:
[climate09-int] Video: The People's Assembly<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=inherit><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:inherit'>This is an opportunity which would set a trend to give
the individual some input no matter how small it appears.</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=inherit><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:inherit'>On Sky News today the Internets power was indicated and
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=inherit><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:inherit'>why not use that as well, you would get the youngsters
interested too. We need to encourage the younger generations to find ways for
engagement that they feel happy with. Unless we try to be open minded and
inclusive we will continue feeding the beast of manipulative power </span></font><font
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From: Matthew Scott <Matt@communitysectorcoalition.org.uk><br>
Subject: RE: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] Peoples Assemblies Everywhere Fwd:
[climate09-int] Video: The People's Assembly<br>
To: "mariastella nash" <mariastellanash@yahoo.com>, "<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Reclaiming Spaces</st1:PersonName>"
<reclaiming-spaces@listi.jpberlin.de>, "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">campaignforrealdemocracy@lists.aktivix.org</st1:PersonName>"
<<st1:PersonName w:st="on">campaignforrealdemocracy@lists.aktivix.org</st1:PersonName>>,
"<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Mark</st1:PersonName> Barrett"
<marknbarrett@googlemail.com><br>
Date: Monday, 21 December, 2009, 13:35<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Were X factor for politics to happen, as
Simon Cowell has floated, and Cameron / Brown welcomed, I’d like to
think it would be a leap forward but progressive politics often don’t
make for soundbites, so the challenge would be to ensure public opinion was not
manipulated to a lower level. We are not starting form a level playing
field but from a place where the media has polluted to the virtual
commons. Nick Davis’ book ‘flat earth news’ is good
on this and I spotted this quote in it from Freud’s nephew, Edward
Bernays, who was the founder of modern day PR and advertising:</span></font><font
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conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organised habits and opinions
of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who
manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible
government which is the true ruling power… In almost every act of our
daily lives.. . In our social conduct and our ethical thinking, we are
dominated by the relatively small number of persons… who pull the wires
which control the public mind </span></font></i><font face=inherit><span
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this year but I worry about all that hype that values celebrity going even
further into civil society – maybe it is coming anyway and we just need
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nash [mailto:mariastellanash@yahoo.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 December 2009 04:29<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Reclaiming
Spaces</st1:PersonName>; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">campaignforrealdemocracy@lists.aktivix.org</st1:PersonName>
; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Mark</st1:PersonName> Barrett<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re:
[Campaignforrealdemocracy] Peoples Assemblies Everywhere Fwd: [climate09-int]
Video: The People's Assembly</span></font><font face=inherit><span
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style='font-size:13.5pt'>Greetings!<br>
<br>
Why not use the power of the internet as well<br>
<br>
Look what happened with X-Factor!<br>
Serious issues could also be addressed via the internet<br>
<br>
So come on guys, there is a wealth of knowledge, experience and love out
there to help all the vulnerable people in the world.<br>
We who have the electronic ability can make a difference for the other people
who have no electricity or clean water or good food<br>
<br>
Keep onwards and upwards<br>
<br>
Maria<br>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Mon, 21/12/09, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Mark</st1:PersonName> Barrett <i><span style='font-style:italic'><marknbarrett@googlemail.com></span></i></span></b>
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Mark</st1:PersonName> Barrett
<marknbarrett@googlemail.com><br>
Subject: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] Peoples Assemblies Everywhere Fwd:
[climate09-int] Video: The People's Assembly<br>
To: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Reclaiming Spaces</st1:PersonName>"
<reclaiming-spaces@listi.jpberlin.de>, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">campaignforrealdemocracy@lists.aktivix.org</st1:PersonName><br>
Date: Monday, 21 December, 2009, 11:47 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>That is precisely the sort of proposals that came
out of both CJA and CJN's final evaluations. Organise Peoples' Assemblies
locally and regionally everywhere, then a simultaneous decentralised
Assembly next summer. Also a call for a global day of action in fall on
Climate Justice principles. And of course, mobilisations during COP16 in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mexico</st1:place></st1:country-region>
in December. A great spark of hope and a decisive year ahead.<br>
<font color="#888888"><span style='color:#888888'> Olivier</span></font>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Mark</st1:PersonName> Barrett wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Even more awesome and potentially world historic,
would be a regular People's Assembly held in every major city and
rural neighbourhood of the world, at every Town Hall, all at
the same time. A visible, reachable new society in the making, an
unstoppable leverage against any decision making that is not in the
interests of the whole planet AND a low carbon footprint rolled into
one. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>City and Rural
Neighbourhoods of the World, Unite!! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>2009/12/21 Jody Boehnert <jody@eco-labs.org><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Here is a video of our awesome People's Assembly:<br
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGY9ruYpx3o">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGY9ruYpx3o</a><br>
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Jody<br>
</span></font><br>
Hi Anna<br>
<br>
Queries: <br>
> who decides where the barricades are set? <br>
<br>
Do you believe in radical localism (or 'local sovereignty') via inclusive,
consensus decision-making as a key means to work our way out of the
environmental crisis? I think that for the huge number that do, and -
tantalisingly - for the very many others who (though not environmentalists)
nevertheless also believe the better, freer, enlilghtened society begins
with the same realisation, for us ( ie us vs. everyone who does not believe
in that ideal) doesn't the barricade sets itself accordingly? People either
believe that a vital solution to globalisation rests in ordinary people
responsibly taking control of their immediate resources together, with
collective stewardship and everyone equally included in decision-making,
and with federating support for other similar groupings across the
communities who wish to do the same, or they do not, or they are not even
aware of the possibility. The clear setting out of those barricades, on our
terms not theirs as is the case with <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Copenhagen</st1:place></st1:City>
and all the other jamborees would give them the opportunity to decide who's
side they are on. No? <br>
<br>
>how do we set these without enough information being given to the
"grass roots"?<br>
<br>
The barricades would get set by a call out being framed in the terms above,
so question could turn on "do you believe in an alternative society?
Another world, built by the grassroots? If so, let's show what democracy
really looks like.. if so, let's all get ourselves, and our groups down to
our local town hall, for a global picnic / dance / festival / occupation /
on such and such day at such and such time in response to such and such
event. We could use this idea to create the space for more autonomy and
network building in our local areas, while also putting the idea of a new
global to local sovereignty, the free society in the making into the minds
of the mainstream, boosting and building and joining up with all the other
local areas in solidarity. For the environment, for the politics, for the
economics, for the human rights, for all the socially controlled,
downtrodden and oppressed. The message is a new start, for a new
people a new covenant. Maybe a blank placard could be our symbol..?<br>
<br>
>Who decides what this information should be.<br>
this is a lot more complicated than a simple call.<br>
<br>
But it's not THAT difficult, is it? As we know, everything, whether local
or in an anti- conference setting needs to be done with groundrules, so why
should a call for decentralised joined up organising be any different.
Democratic inclusion, equality, consensus, independence, accountability,
transparency etc are a given, right? Surely we are by now mostly agreed on
what constitutes good, democratic practice, aren't we? If not now, after
all this time, when? Isn't that enough info? <br>
<br>
>Who decides whether the call is for 2degrees or 1.5 degrees or 0.8
degrees which is already bad enough if you are one of the communities who
are dying of drought or flood.<br>
<br>
I'm not saying this is not important, it really is, and we need to keep the
pressure on. But also I really don't think we can hope for a real
democratization of the global process (and therefore a new urgency and
openness to the needs of all in the embryonic global governance /
regulatory process) until we ourselves get our act together as a people (we
are the 'global justice people' right?). <br>
<br>
And what this means, for me is putting ourselves on the map as a people
rooted in our communities and not just as a travelling circus of
resistance, important though that may be. We've won most of the arguments
about globalisation now, the only thing that's missing is the political
will and we need to push for that, yes of course. But we are much more than
this travelling conscience. Much much more. Not only are we 'everywhere';
but we always have been; so we are everytime too. As a people questing for
universal justice we transcend space and time. <br>
<br>
"take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the
creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I
was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you
invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you
looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’..
‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these
brothers of mine, you did for me.’" <br>
<br>
What is new is the force of global technology that allows us to
communicate, mobilise and thereby publically constitute ourselves across
the planet. And that is totally unprecedented. But until we start using the
amazing technological tools at our disposal to create a genuinely
democratic, visible 'Other' to the capitalist / interstate mode of
globalisation I really do not think we can expect people power to come to
its fruition as a force for real change in the world. As activists, we are
in a ghetto. Maybe the biggest ghetto in human history, but a ghetto
nevertheless. We need to break out by calling upon the highest, and best
plan ever, and mobilising according to the principles of the society we
want to see born. A decentralised, joined up movement for the best dream of
all, rooted in local communities and thereby able to speak to everyone in
the context of local conditions, would be very difficult to hold back,
because people would begin to get what we are about. And, eventually this
localism, pursued properly will reduce emissions as so much of what we burn
is in transport. And we will become what we are destined to be the force
for real change at the national, international and global level that
transforms the world for the good of all. Of course it needs to happen
quickly to save people, as you suggest, which is why I am writing with
urgency. <br>
<br>
>Who has this right to decide that its Ok if some of us die? who decides
who dies? sorry I dont think anyone is qualified to make that call. how can
all be welcome when some of us think its OK to shift carbon from one
accounting head to another for money : no matter how much money. <br>
<br>
Sorry I didn't mean to say that everyone is welcome in a simplistic sense,
although I do think everyone is capable of hearing the truth about how we
should live and act, and that no-one is damned until the final moment of
truth either devours or save them. There are those who will fight us, as
they always have done, and they will of course lose. But those who hear the
truth of what we say, that the world's salvation lies in the making of a
new society, built in every local community but joined up across the world,
not state not market but independent civil society; they will come. And
they may well come from unexpected places - just as the nay sayers will.
And the nay sayers are the culprits for the deaths you speak of, those who
put their store in the state and the market place to fix things, or who
just don't care. And the longer those people drag their feet, the longer
the process will take, and the more people will unnecessarily die, and it
is their responsibility, and theirs alone, as it always has been.<br>
<br>
From the same passage: "All the nations will be gathered before him,
and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates
the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats
on his left...Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me,
you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his
angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and
you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in,
I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and
you did not look after me.’ " <a
href="http://niv.scripturetext.com/matthew/25.htm">http://niv.scripturetext.com/matthew/25.htm</a>
<br>
<br>
I know it's unfashionable to say it. But if we are believers we should pray
for divine assistance to take us out of our ghetto. And if we are not, we
should call upon whatever force we do believe in to come to our collective
aid, and then, from there we should start trusting that history is on our
side, and start mobilising for a new society, with completely different
values, and new cultural engine at heart, and beginning in every community,
because there are people dying, in all sorts of ways, everywhere.<br>
<br>
That's our calling, isn't it? <br>
<br>
A Salaam Aleykum<br>
<br>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Mark</st1:PersonName><br>
<br>
<br>
Queries:<br>
who decides where the barricades are set? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>how do we set these without enough information
being given to the "grass roots"?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Who decides what this information should be.<br>
this is a lot more complicated than a simple call.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Who decides whether the call is for 2degrees or
1.5 degrees or 0.8 degrees which is already bad enough if you are one of
the communities who are dying of drought or flood.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Who has this right to decide that its Ok if some
of us die? who decides who dies?<br>
sorry I dont think anyone is qualified to make that call.<br>
how can all be welcome when some of us think its OK to shift carbon from
one accounting head to another for money : no matter how much money. <br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:39 PM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Mark</st1:PersonName>
Barrett <marknbarrett@googlemail.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>What we need for a paradigm shift is to organise
ourselves under one banner, in which all are welcome, and across ALL the
local communities in the world. How many times does it need to be said,
before we make the simple call out for ALL local groups to converge on the
local arms of the state at the same time, and then build our networks from
there, and to do it again and again and again, to build local groupings
across all th ideological divides, and thereby at last to carve out the visible,
independent spaces, in every locality, where a new sovereignty - based on
stewardship - can be realised, so then finally everyone can chose which
side of the barricade they are on, and so the world can no longer
misrepresent, or ignore what we really stand for? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
2009/12/19 ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dear all <br>
I am not comfortable truly with the hype of considering anyone
"winners" in this "game". Please can we stop
adopting the language of military strategy and corporate
manipulation. It affects how we perceive and think. We are all losers
already. every one has lost for the last 25 years at least since
climate change was recognised: hundreds of species exterminated , already
human death tolls and suffering have reached incredible levels. We are not
trying to win : we are trying desperately to salvage life and lives from
the wreck of greed and hubris. Can we finally stop buying the spin
and re-work our fundamentals, our approaches and our own thinking?
And stop being so manic or epressive about what we should have known would
be a very hard struggle ? We are talking of a paradigm shift here,
people. Do you really think it is going to come from those in power?<br>
Anna <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Patrick Bond
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
(You do the spotting of biases/ignorance.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><a
href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/copenhagen/article6961367.ece">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/copenhagen/article6961367.ece</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>1830 Looking at the latest draft - which is the
one Greenpeace must have been reacting to, and it does indeed read a bit
like a G8 communique. Let's gut it a bit and try to see who's come out on
top from the various tussles over the past fortnight. Remember it's only a
draft.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Firstly the name: <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Copenhagen</st1:place></st1:City> Accord. That is stronger than
the Copenhagen Declaration or somesuch, so it is an international
agreement, which makes it binding in at least a moral sense.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Winners: the Danes, unless this treaty is trashed
in which case they might ask for its name to be changed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>There's no explicit binding target on temperature
- just a recognition of the "scientific view" that limiting
temperature rise to 2C would "enhance our long-term cooperative action
to combat climate change".<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Winners: Oil producers. Losers: Small island
states, LDCs, the planet as a whole<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>A new clause further down the document says later
reviews of the Copenhagen Accord would look at a target of 1.5C.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Winners: <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Tuvalu</st1:place></st1:country-region> and the low-lying
islands (if that review ever takes place)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>The parties agree that that deep carbon emission
cuts are required, according to the science, and "with a view to
reduce global emissions by 50 per cent in 2050 below 1990 levels, taking
into account the right to equitable access to atmospheric space".<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Winners: the emerging economies including <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Brazil</st1:place></st1:country-region> will
be pleased by that last clause.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>No specific target on "global peaking"
(the point at which emissions peak - a crucial target for scientists) which
the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>
had wanted to be set at 2020. Instead the text says: "We should
co-operate in achieving the peaking of global and national emissions as
soon as possible, recognising that the time frame for peaking will be
longer in develoing countires and bearing in mind that social and economic development
and poverty eradication are the first and overriding priorities of
developing countries..."<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Winners: Again, <st1:country-region w:st="on">China</st1:country-region>
, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Brazil</st1:country-region> and other
emerging economies such as <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region>
. There's no target on their peaking.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Developed countries commit to reducing their
emissions individually or jointly by at least 80 per cent by 2050.
Individual 2020 targets to be listed in an appendix (which is still blank).
Verification to be rigorous, robust and transparent. The EU was offering
the 80 per cent target.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Winners: In the longer term, the planet.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>But there is no overall target on emission limits
or "mitigation actions" by major emerging economies, such as <st1:country-region
w:st="on">China</st1:country-region> , <st1:country-region w:st="on">India</st1:country-region>
and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Brazil</st1:place></st1:country-region>
. An earlier draft today set a 15-30 per cent target. Instead individual
country targets will be listed in an appendix to the accord. Countries will
be asked to report on their progress every two years via national
communications - but there's no comeback if they're lying.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>If countries want international support for their
mitigation actions - <st1:country-region w:st="on">China</st1:country-region>
and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Brazil</st1:place></st1:country-region>
have made clear that they don't - then they face international measurement.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Winners: <st1:country-region w:st="on">China</st1:country-region>
and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Brazil</st1:place></st1:country-region>
. Losers: US and EU<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Caveat: there is a square bracket [Consideration
to be inserted US and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">China</st1:place></st1:country-region>
], which suggests that this battle is not yet over.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Funding: developed countries are promised
"scaled up, new and additional, predictable and adequate funding"
to help them avert and cope with climate change. They will get $30 billion
in "fast start" financing over the next three years and the developed
countries also "support the goal of mobilising jointly $100 billion a
year by 2020. This funding will be a mixture of public, private , bilateral
and multilateral and "alternative" - ie market-based - finance.
The multilateral funding will be channeled through trust funds on which
developed and developing countries have equal representation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Winners: developing countries, especially the
Africans and small island states. Developed world will be happy to have
flexibility in funding<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>There will be a review of this accord and its
implementation by 2016, including the 1.5C target. But there is no
commitment to making it a legally binding international treaty and no
mention of the next COP meeting in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mexico
City</st1:place></st1:City> next year, which an earlier draft had suggested
should be held within six months.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Winners: <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">China</st1:place></st1:country-region> and G77 countries, which
wanted to avoid new international treaty - but, interestingly, the only
mention of the Kyoto Protocol, which they want to keep, is in the preamble,
which endorses the decision that the KP working group should continue its
work on a new round of commitments by developed countries under that pact.
That omission could be read both ways.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Overall winners: You do the math. <br>
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