[Cc-webedit] Current web pages

Wed Aug 12 23:51:50 BST 2009

hi

just wanted to say hang on a minute. Whilst i don't dispute that having
the official video on the front page is a good idea, i can't help but find
the tone of this email seriously objectionable. Firstly, though there may
well be strong consensus within the media team, this does not override the
need for consensus within the web team also. be it a formality or not this
is a collaborative and decentralised approach which should take into
account the web teams need to look into the possible vulnerabilites to
cross site scripting attacks that embedding media links can lead to rather
than natively hosting them. This is important from the point of view of
the security of all users of the server and site. Also, there are
accessibility issues for those with visual impairments who require the use
of a text or braille browser which can have real problems with flash
intensive sites, particularly embeds without a descriptive alt flag. These
are website specific things that should be discussed within the working
group to be fed back to the media team before any unilateral decisions are
made.

I'm not objecting to this being done, i don't really have an opinion on
that. What i am saying however is that the web team should be able to
assess the potential security risks at all stages without someone stating
in capital letters that if jon doesn't do it then they will. I think we
all need to take a deep breath and get working in the same direction.

Solidarity

jimdog

> Hi Jon
>
> Just to say it was a very strong consensus of the media group to have the
> climate camp tv on the home page. Here's the embed code:
>
> <embed src="http://blip.tv/play/hI5oAQA%2Em4v"
> type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="700" height="360"
> allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed>
>
> This can't be controversial, can it? There's obviously no better way for
> punters to access the themes of climate camp.  That's what the media group
> think. Please email me if there is any problem with this, and I WILL deal
> with it. (Can't obviously have a 2009 website without video being totally
> prominent and integral!)
> Then we need a button to link to the cc-tv webpage, but we can't do that
> without seeing a draft of the homepage.  Can you send this through to us,
> so
> we can design this and send it straight back.  We offer to do a button for
> the radio as well if they haven't done it yet.....
>
> Best and respect
>
> Richard
>
>
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>>   1. Re: Current web pages (Jonathan Leighton)
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>>   3. [Fwd: Fwd: Handbook final] (Jonathan Leighton)
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>> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:11:54 +0100
>> From: Jonathan Leighton <j at jonathanleighton.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Cc-webedit] Current web pages
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>> Cool, nice one Neil.
>>
>> One thing which Jonathan Stevenson said to me, which I think is very
>> true, is that so long as the new website has everything about the summer
>> camp on it, nothing else matters. Obviously we shouldn't take this too
>> literally, but I anticipate there will be teething problems regardless
>> of how prepared we are and how much testing we do! But he's right - the
>> summer camp is the most important part to get right.
>>
>> I am arranging with nologic for the old site to be hosted at
>> old.climatecamp.org.uk for a few months before going completely offline.
>> We can set up a friendly 404 page with a search box, and a link to the
>> requested page at the old site, in order to help people find stuff.
>>
>> Alistair said he's coming up with a content transition plan so I eagerly
>> await that!
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 18:44 +0100, Neil wrote:
>> > I have made two spreadsheets one showing the current published pages.
>> > the other lists all pages. We need to decide what needs to go on the
>> new
>> > sit and what will be archive. They are attached. Alistair, you said
>> you
>> > could make this editable by all, please do
>> >
>> > Neil
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>> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:07:24 +0100
>> From: alistair alexander <alistair at ali303.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Cc-webedit] Current web pages
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>> great stuff neil -
>> it's here - you can view but need a google account to edit i think
>>
>> ttp://
>>
>> spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ard3w9GsylpTdC1TS2dweGExRUtHd2gwTmNyVmk1UlE&hl=en
>>
>> might require some more explanation - is sheet 1 showing all current
>> pages?
>>
>> i'll knock up a first go at a new sitemap - it'll be quite minimal to
>> begin
>> with and we'll work on te principal that additional pages will have to
>> be
>> justfied to be included
>>
>> Ali
>>
>>
>> 2009/8/12 Jonathan Leighton <j at jonathanleighton.com>
>>
>> > Cool, nice one Neil.
>> >
>> > One thing which Jonathan Stevenson said to me, which I think is very
>> > true, is that so long as the new website has everything about the
>> summer
>> > camp on it, nothing else matters. Obviously we shouldn't take this too
>> > literally, but I anticipate there will be teething problems regardless
>> > of how prepared we are and how much testing we do! But he's right -
>> the
>> > summer camp is the most important part to get right.
>> >
>> > I am arranging with nologic for the old site to be hosted at
>> > old.climatecamp.org.uk for a few months before going completely
>> offline.
>> > We can set up a friendly 404 page with a search box, and a link to the
>> > requested page at the old site, in order to help people find stuff.
>> >
>> > Alistair said he's coming up with a content transition plan so I
>> eagerly
>> > await that!
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 18:44 +0100, Neil wrote:
>> > > I have made two spreadsheets one showing the current published
>> pages.
>> > > the other lists all pages. We need to decide what needs to go on the
>> new
>> > > sit and what will be archive. They are attached. Alistair, you said
>> you
>> > > could make this editable by all, please do
>> > >
>> > > Neil
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>> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:36:28 +0100
>> From: Jonathan Leighton <j at jonathanleighton.com>
>> Subject: [Cc-webedit] [Fwd: Fwd: Handbook final]
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>> Brilliant Richard, the handbook looks great - I'm forwarding it to the
>> web list.
>>
>> I'm sure a lot of this content will be useful to put on the website. We
>> are doing a bit of a push on the content over the weekend with a view to
>> launching next week, so could you send all the text files for us to sort
>> through please?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jon
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> > From: Richard Braude <richard.braude at googlemail.com>
>> > To: Jonathan Leighton <j at jonathanleighton.com>
>> > Subject: Fwd: Handbook final
>> > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:45:20 +0100
>> >
>> > Hey jonathan,
>> >
>> >
>> > Attached is the new Climate Camp handbook.
>> > There's all sorts of information in there which might be useful for
>> > the new website
>> > (especially the middle section, which is essentially narrative).
>> > I don't know how content is being sorted for the site, but if you'd
>> > like the text files for any of the sections, just ask.
>> >
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> > sounds like you're doing an ace job keeping on top of it all,
>> > richard
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