[Cc-webedit] changes to the front page.

[hamish]

Neil wrote:
> "I changed it in good faith at the request of Rastko Novakovic,"
> 
> And ignored my comment
> 
> Neil
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This is a skype transcript (have taken the persions name out as this is 
a public forum).

  [17/10/2009 20:48:17] Hamish Campbell: the music film also has peopes 
faces in it activly pulling dowen the frence - am looking through the 
photes and they are all masked up. I know some of the peopul who are 
pulling dowen the frence... they might well be procecuted...
[17/10/2009 21:27:52] *** *****: I'm not winning on that front
[17/10/2009 21:28:13] *** *****: you gonna have to bring it up when we 
have a debriefing
[17/10/2009 22:46:47] Hamish Campbell: can you pass this on please
[17/10/2009 22:46:51] Hamish Campbell: YouTube      Help Centre  | email 
options  | report spam

Dear visionontv,

Your video, Swoop - fences coming down 1, may have content that is owned 
or licensed by WMG.

No action is required on your part; however, if you're interested in 
learning how this affects your video, please visit the Content ID 
Matches section of your account for more information.

Sincerely,
- The YouTube Team
[17/10/2009 22:50:44] Hamish Campbell: *** ***** you dont have to bring 
this up if you dont whont to - will send direct to dan.
[17/10/2009 22:51:02] *** *****: have read it out loude
[17/10/2009 22:52:12] *** *****: but email to dan along with what you 
said about faces and them facing prosecution

I then sent this e-mail to Emily, Lauren and Dan as *** ***** had asked 
me to:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: live site
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:26:55 +0100
From: hamish <hamish at undercurrents.org>
Reply-To: hamish at undercurrents.org
To: lauren simpson <laurenjsimpson at googlemail.com>
CC: Dan Gifford <dan.gifford at mac.com>,  Emily James <emily at emily-james.com>
References: <B6046DBA-85B9-4C59-B7E3-AA4C5A44342C at mac.com> 
<4AD8837A.6070803 at undercurrents.org> 
<ed6e9cf1523cf61657326364db6ed8dd.squirrel at swift.riseup.net>


Dear visionontv,

Your video, Swoop - fences coming down 1, may have content that is owned
or licensed by WMG.

No action is required on your part; however, if you're interested in
learning how this affects your video, please visit the Content ID
Matches section of your account for more information.

Sincerely,
- The YouTube Team

The music film also has peoples faces in it actively pulling down the
fence - am looking through the photos and they are all masked up. I know
some of the people who are pulling down the fence... they might well be
prosecuted...

I have taken the video down from the sites that allow me to take it down.

Hamish

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We took the video down soon after it was posted so there was little 
chance for the police to get a copy. The problem was that it was soon 
re-posted unchanged to a new account which we could do nothing about, 
set up by the documenting team. E-mailed them about that account as 
well, tried to message each of the filmmakers who posted incriminating 
evidence as more films appeared on youtube, but as Paulo from 
undercurrents said:

“It seems like all rules about filming people doing crim damage have 
gone out the window..totally nuts.

Well done for taking them down.”

So the problems with these films, both the faces and the copyright 
issues, were signalled clearly at the outset. This cannot be swept under 
the carpet.

Disputes over these issues within the climatecamptv group have been 
given as a reason to hold stuff as it is now, whereas in terms of the 
un-consensed change of the climatecamp.tv embed on the climatecamp 
website, clearly the right thing to do is to change it back to how it 
was. If there had been any proposal for this change, we would obviously 
have blocked it and held it over till a face-to-face meeting (which is 
on Sunday anyway!). So this change should be reverted straight away, or 
we have a serious abuse of process.

hamish
one of http://climatecamp.tv