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{font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} </style>wavy hands to Murray's email too.<br><br>We need to have a way of aggregating third party content on the site because we need to recognise that 'media' now means individuals publishing content about CC anyway. If it's good or interesting then people will read it. If we can aggregate that on our site then they'll likely to rad it there if not then they'll read it elsewhere.<br><br>We can't control what other people write and what others blog/video/photograph online is becoming more relevant and influential than what mainstream media pushes out to sell advertising. I'd argue it's also more effective at swaying opinions.<br><br>I get there are 'control' issues re CC media team. I totally understand these are because they're necessary dealing with trust/security issues interally and necessary for dealing with mass media which have been built on black/white, controlled messaging terms externally. I'm not suggesting we get rid of this but simply adapt our media work to recognise the rise of distributed, individual/citizen generated content.<br><br>I'm personally not 100% convinced that the indymedia compromise is perfect, but it's not a bad start...... <br><br>Simon<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">From: muppet317@hotmail.com<br>To: jody@eco-labs.org; j@jonathanleighton.com<br>CC: mediateam@lists.riseup.net; cc-webedit@lists.aktivix.org<br>Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:59:22 +0000<br>Subject: RE: [mediateam] News during camp & website<br><br>
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hi all,<br>
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i see jody's point about losing control over 'news' and the potential for major issues that could arise from just promoting any 'climate camp' indymedia content on our website however it does also highlight an inherent conflict between the media team's work to control and manage our messaging and the desire to promote campers producing news themselves (thus avoiding the spin, sensationalisation and misrepresentation of the mainstream media).<br>
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having said that i think we can find a way to do both, and hopefully without too much effort! one option could simply be to rename the 'news' section something like 'Climate Camp on Indymedia' and having a separate section of the page for either a climate camp blog or 'news' from the media team. this could help to promote campers own reporting while retaining the difference between 'the camp's messaging' and 'the views of all the people at camp' which are definitely distinct.<br>
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alternatively some 'light touch' moderation / selective promotion of content could be one way of ensuring that way off message content does not appear in climate camps name. while this could be perceived as controlling, the media working grop remit does include promoting the politics and actions of camp through mainstream and independent media (not just promoting anyone's views). but - does anyone actually have capacity to take on promoting / moderating content for this during the week?<br>
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i hope this can help us to find a way to resolve this issue before camp as i think its vital that the new website can promote campers own stories, allowing us to show a different side of camp to the one that is normally portrayed in mainstream media, while also ensuring that the political views that appear on our website aren't massively off the messages and politics the movement as a whole has agreed.<br>
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cheers,<br>
murray<br> <br>
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:23:18 +0100<br>From: jody@eco-labs.org<br>To: j@jonathanleighton.com<br>CC: mediateam@lists.riseup.net; cc-webedit@lists.aktivix.org<br>Subject: Re: [mediateam] News during camp & website<br><br>hi Jonathan, - I forgot to say thanks for all the work you are doing and hope not stress you out at the last moment. Sorry if this conflicts with earlier discussions that I missed - hope you can find a easy way to resolve this???<br>Jody<br><br><br><br><br clear="all"><a>www.eco-labs.org</a><br><a>www.teach-in.co.uk</a><br><br><br>
<div class="EC_EC_gmail_quote">2009/8/17 Jody Boehnert <span dir="ltr"><<a>jody@eco-labs.org</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="EC_EC_gmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex;">HI Jonathan & all,<br><br>Yes, if I understand this correctly I have to say I do have a major objection to it as I think it could easily undermine the work the media team is doing in developing messaging. We should not publish opinions from individual campers on our website as 'news' - This could potentially be disasterous given the wide range of opinions within CC - it could be very off-topic, ill-considered or even a little crazy. <br><br>I would not like to just pull articles from Indemedia either - although they do have a bit of moderation set up it is not fast enough and their standards are not the same as CC media policy.<br><br>'News' on our website needs to come from the media team, there is not way of opening this up without causing chaos. Blogs are different - but need to be moderated, not presented as news, and not have as high a priority on the site.<br><br>Jody<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br clear="all"><a>www.eco-labs.org</a><br><a>www.teach-in.co.uk</a><br><br><br>
<div class="EC_EC_gmail_quote">2009/8/16 Jonathan Leighton <span dir="ltr"><<a>j@jonathanleighton.com</a>></span><br>
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<div class="h5">Hi all,<br><br>[This is quite important to read if you care about the provisions for<br>open publishing during camp.]<br><br>So far, our plan has been to set up a <a>news.climatecamp.org.uk</a> website<br>for people to post to. Some important concerns have been raised about<br>this approach, and discussed informally between various individuals:<br><br>* We don't have a process set up for moderating / promoting articles.<br>Any process we do set up could be seen as an attempt by climate camp to<br>control what people are saying.<br><br>* Having a climate camp specific news site could be seen as distancing<br>ourselves from Indymedia and therefore "the movement", which could<br>amplify bad feeling<br><br>* Setting up a specific news site would be more work for the website<br>group to build and maintain. We are already short on time with the new<br>website launching within 2 days.<br><br>So there's a proposal for a change of plan.<br><br>PROPOSAL: We use London Indymedia and pull promoted articles tagged with<br>"climatecamp" from there. We put a link from our website which takes<br>people directly to a publish page for this tag. This makes sense<br>because:<br><br>* We don't have to do any setup/maintenance<br>* The camp is in London<br>* It's part of Indymedia and therefore the "movement"<br>* It won't leave people confused about what the difference is between<br>Indymedia and "our" news site<br><br>This is both pragmatic and probably better politically.<br><br>We have basically no time for long discussions on this. If people have<br>MAJOR objections, please voice them by NOON TOMORROW (that's Monday 16th<br>August).<br><br>Thanks,<br>Jon<br><br><br><br></div></div>-----------------------------<br>To get to the Media Team Crabgrass, email <a>press@climatecamp.org.uk</a> to request access<br><br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br></blockquote></div><br><br><hr>Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. <a href="http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/">Get Them Now</a><br /><hr />Windows Live Messenger: Happy 10-Year Anniversary—get free winks and emoticons. <a href='http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/' target='_new'>Get Them Now</a></body>
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