Now that the media team is switching over to Crabgrass, I think we should have a CCTV space there too. But email lists still get the most participation, and i for ne would like a bit more participation in some of what's being discussed here.<br>
<br>We certainly never agreed that the feed on the climate camp home page would carry just anything that was tagged Climate Camp, that leaves it way too open to randomness. In all the discussions that I can remember, we always said that it would carry the player from the CCTV home page. We had agreed a process for deciding what gets promoted onto that channel, but it has never actually been followed.<br>
<br>As it happens, I think that the films about the action at the coal plant are actually the best thing to have on the home page of the climate camp site right now - but certainly not the random Kew Eco-Village piece that's at the top of the player right now.<br>
<br>Would it be possible to have a specific player (and tag) for films on the Climate Camp home page? And then can we formulate, (and actually stick to!) a process for deciding what goes on there. Films playing on that player should need the approval of at least two or three people.<br>
<br>Rastko is right, the button on the bottom right of the embedded player should be to the <a href="http://climatecamp.tv">climatecamp.tv</a> site, not the visionOn. I also think that it's odd that films that were made on camp by CCTV crew come up with a visionOn label at the start. Why doesn't it say Climate Camp TV there?<br>
<br>As for the text that describes the window on the Climate Camp site, that depends on the criteria for what goes on there. I'd like to think that there could be a way for us to include things that are relevant, like the films about the Australian action... but I can't think how to frase a description - other than maybe 'watch the latest films made by Climate Camp TV and other related stuff'... which is a bit rubbish. Any suggestions?<br>
<br>As for comments, I don't understand why they can't be on the CCTV page?<br><br>Re donations: Yeah! someone cares about us! But yes, the first time that we put a donations button up it pointed to the Undercurrents account (which is were we had our original donation sent, and who agreed to be our accounts keeper). <br>
<br>We do, indeed, need to agree a process for how to decide what to do with donations and any other funds that we have. This has been totally ad hoc up to now, but I think that we need something more transparent.<br><br>
As for the design of the site: there are two people, Dan and Patch who I have spoken to, but we need to decide what we want to do with it.<br><br>I know that a lot of people have complained (myself included) that it's not possible to send people direct links to specific films. I don't understand what is needed to fix this, or why it is this way, but I do know that it is a problem which really needs addressing.<br>
<br>E<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/9/18 rastko novakovic <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rastko.novakovic@gmail.com">rastko.novakovic@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><b>Hey Richard,</b></div>
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<div><b>I was unsure what the process for these decisions was and is and I think it would be good to discuss these in a wider forum. We still haven't sorted a CCTV list on crabgrass, so until then let's just stick with mediateam, unless people feel spammed? Please scroll down for replies.</b><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2009/9/18 richard hering <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:richard@visionon.tv" target="_blank">richard@visionon.tv</a>></span><div class="im"><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi there<br><br>Feeling a bit list-traffic-aware, I propose we take future discussion of these rather detailed CCTV matters off these lists to a smaller set of people - CCTV + Jon from website? Would anyone else like to be included? On the other hand, if enough people on all three lists are interested in the details of CCTV's rss feeds, then respect!
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<div>Rastko Novakovic wrote:<br>> Dear Campers,<br>> <br>> I'm a bit confused as to how the feed for CCTV on the main website <br>> works. At the moment it seems to be feeding <a href="http://visionon.tv/" target="_blank">visionon.tv</a>'s main page?<br>
<br>No - it is feeding all videos tagged "climatecamp". </div></blockquote>
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</div><div><b>I think this is not a good idea, since we might have all sorts of stuff coming into the front page of the CC website and also it is not the voice of CCTV. What do other people say?</b></div><div class="im">
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<div>It is not feeding VOTV's main page at all. There is a small link to the VOTV main page in the bottom right corner of the embed, called "VOTV". The big link ("Climate Camp TV") goes to <a href="http://climatecamp.tv/" target="_blank">climatecamp.tv</a>. The other link on <a href="http://climatecamp.org.uk/" target="_blank">climatecamp.org.uk</a> also goes to <a href="http://climatecamp.tv/" target="_blank">climatecamp.tv</a>. </div>
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</div><div><b>Yep, it just seemed to be the case, since the first 4 videos are the same.</b></div><div class="im">
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<div><br>> Underneath it reads "Watch the latest videos produced and edited on-site <br>> at the camp" which is confusing.<br><br> </div>Agreed - we need another wording (this one came from the web team, I believe) . Any suggestions? </blockquote>
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<div>> Also, the Hazelwood video which is now <br>> on <a href="http://climatecamptv.org/" target="_blank">climatecamptv.org</a> although TOTALLY appropriate, is not a video <br>
> produced by CCTV. There is a comments page pointing to visionon, which I <br>> don't remember us discussing. <br><br>Comments are very important to have, but they were impossible to implement with the latest design of the <a href="http://climatecamp.tv/" target="_blank">climatecamp.tv</a> site, so we just linked to the visionOntv commenting in the interim. Actually, the visionOntv commenting is not really working yet, until we get "rss in" in the cms and some programming work done, so I think it's best to take this out currently. </div>
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</div><div><b>Cool. I think the comments can go to either an existing address for now, or we can set something up on CCTV, but I feel it is necessary that it is kept on the CCTV website. I feel we are already perhaps a little distant from the MEDIA team and I don't think we should be going even further away from CC.</b></div>
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<div>> Also, what does the DONATE button do? <br> </div>That's easy. It allows people to donate to Climate Camp TV - so far we received a single donation of £20!<br></blockquote>
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</div><div><b>I don't knock 20 quid! Just am wondering which account it is going into and how we spend the donations, since, to my knowledge, this hasn't been discussed at all. </b></div><div class="im">
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Think that answers all the questions (: It would be great to find someone to work more on the design of the site.<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">If anyone wants to be an admin so that they can work on the CCTV site send a message to one of these current admins<br>
> Richard Braude<br>> Mark Corbin<br>> Richard Hering<br>> Emily James<br>> San Do Kai <br>> rastko novakovic <br>> antoine S <br>> Lauren Jane Simpson <br><br>You can ask Hamish for help as well.</blockquote>
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</div><div><b>DIY is fine and dandy, but (call me a Titoist) I fear lack of coordination. Heh :)</b></div>
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