Hey Guys, <div><br></div><div>This is a really good discussion. I hope if people/groups start replying to the questions then we will hopefully be able to talk about climate justice , capitalism ....neocolonialism etc when we send out an email about location and what the meeting is about. </div>
<div>Hopefully someone is capable of writing a small paragraph on these things without spinning into madness. I would need about 5000 words, soooooo..... yum yes... pas moi. </div><div><br></div><div>I also think anyone who is new to joining CJA would see our message and methods on our website. </div>
<div><br></div><div>However I think it is important to make our direct action message clear cut and obvious if there is a final email that moves forward with the topic and meaning of the CJA international meeting- good thinking. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Best, </div><div><br></div><div>Julie </div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Olivier demarcellus <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:elviejo@greenmail.ch">elviejo@greenmail.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Well, I would think that talking of " climate justice, capitalism, neocolonialism, taking an non-institutional approach, using direct action etc." should give people a rough idea of where we're coming from! That said, making links isn't necessarily being lobby fodder. It should just be clear that it isn't our primary concern in a meeting.<br>
O<br>
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1. Re: 2011 International CJA meeting letter in FRENCH (Bert)<br>
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From: Bert<<a href="mailto:antistrata@riseup.net" target="_blank">antistrata@riseup.net</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [Cja] 2011 International CJA meeting letter in FRENCH<br>
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Quite possibly....<br>
The eternal problem of what climate justice means?! ;)<br>
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On 25/01/2011 16:33, Chris Kitchen wrote:<br>
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actually looking back at the questions, we didn't really say anything<br>
about what we mean by climate justice, capitalism, neocolonialism,<br>
taking an non-institutional approach, using direct action etc.<br>
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Does anyone else think this could cause problems in terms of who comes?<br>
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On 25 January 2011 16:27, Chris Kitchen<<a href="mailto:chriskitchen@gmail.com" target="_blank">chriskitchen@gmail.com</a><br>
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interesting. Hope this doesn't come across as devisice, but those<br>
doing civil disobedience tend not to like being treated as<br>
lobbying fodder for those that work more institutionally. Part of<br>
the point of working outside intitutional channels is to acheive<br>
systemic change from below, not just more effective lobbying.<br>
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On 25 January 2011 16:11, Laura :)<<a href="mailto:globalvegan@googlemail.com" target="_blank">globalvegan@googlemail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:globalvegan@googlemail.com" target="_blank">globalvegan@googlemail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Hey all,<br>
this is from camille, who lives in Lille, she's translated the<br>
letter into french& given the following answers. she's been<br>
trying to organise stuff amongst french youth& she seems<br>
pretty keen to get everyone who's working on climate in france<br>
to start talking to each other. I reckon she'd be interested<br>
in coming to paris for a meeting too.<br>
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I really don't have any time right now to be forwarding the<br>
letter out specifically to people& ask for their responses.<br>
it would be great if someone could though!!<br>
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xx laura<br>
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Her answers are : /<br>
1)What is essential to you and your organizations climate<br>
justice agenda right now? / *European power shift and building<br>
bridges between youth french climate organizations*<br>
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2)//Why should climate justice comrades come together for an<br>
international meeting, and what should the focus of the CJA<br>
meeting be about?/<br>
*We need to strengththe international movement cause we need<br>
international answer; we as youth want to talk about the youth<br>
movement strategy, and find an answer on how to link people<br>
that works more "institutionally" and people that are doing<br>
civil desobedience.<br>
*<br>
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