From climber at redbricks.org.uk Fri Jul 1 10:19:03 2005 From: climber at redbricks.org.uk (.) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:19:03 +0100 Subject: [dissent-tech] G8-Bring Rope+Karabiners Place to Stay + MOVING the G8 leaders Message-ID: <1120209543.3265.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> People are saying make sure that you bring rope ( 10mm builders blue polyproperlene will do) and any old rock climbing carabiners ( as many as possible ). Try to get 50+ metres of rope. - old climbers rope is also great. And bring waterproof walking boots and 1 litr water bottles. I'm not going to say why you should bring it here on this open list, but just have a little think - they could well be the most useful things that you take to the whole event. Trust me on this one please - it's been VERY useful in the past... /////////////////////////////////// Perhaps an alternative place to stay is:- (it's been on other bulitin boards) Bilston Glen - woodland community http://www.bilstonglen-abs.org.uk/news.htm ///////////////////////////////// Seeing as the G8 leaders moved out of Birmingham when people did a protest back in the 90's to a Stately Home in Staffordshire, this could very well be the case again. see:- Here is an article from The Herald I thought you might like: http://www.theherald.co.uk/42156.shtml Revealed: Plan B venue for G8 if security breaks down TOM GORDON, Scottish Political Correspondent June 29 2005 WORLD leaders will be evacuated from the Gleneagles Hotel in the event of a security crisis with the G8 summit being relocated to a castle 20 miles away, The Herald can reveal. The Scottish Police College at Tulliallan, in Fife, has been designated as the "Plan B" venue if the safety of Tony Blair, George W Bush and other politicians is considered at risk, or if protesters make it impossible to conduct business as planned at the luxury resort. Another emergency option less likely than Tulliallan, but potentially humiliating for Jack McConnell, first minister is to move the event to London. Under this scenario, Mr Blair would host the meeting at Lancaster House, the opulent mansion owned by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. It also emerged yesterday that negotiations are under way to allow Bob Geldof, Live8 organiser, and possibly Bono, the U2 frontman, to meet G8 leaders at Gleneagles either next Wednesday, when talks begin, or the following day. Thousands of protesters are expected to target Gleneagles and the nearby village of Auchterarder, Perthshire, on Wednesday. A dedicated police force of 10,600 officers, about 6000 from south of the border, will be co-ordinated from a centre in Glenrothes, Fife. Joiners yesterday boarded up the first shopfront on Auchterarder High Street because the owner fears that violence will erupt around the G8 summit. The contingency plans were revealed by John Vine, chief constable of Tayside Police, who is in charge of security around Gleneagles. He said that Tulliallan Castle had been considered "Plan B" for many months in the event of serious trouble or an accident, such as a fire, at the meeting. Set in 90 acres of parkland just north of the Kincardine Bridge, the 160-year-old building has been used to train Scotland's police officers since 1954, and includes a conference centre. Mr Vine said that if the G8 was relocated he would expect remaining business to be compressed into a single day, with only the leaders of the world's eight most powerful countries and their key aides present. Because Tulliallan does not have the kind of security fencing used for Gleneagles, he said the site would be "ringed with bodies" by police officers. Mr Vine said a blimp would monitor the five-mile Gleneagles perimeter fence, with rapid response teams on standby. He was speaking after taking Mr McConnell on a tour of facilities being built in the grounds of the hotel for 2500 of the world's press. The first minister said he expected the event to generate more than ??500m of television publicity for Scotland, or about 10 times the security costs. Earlier, Mr McConnell saw a ??230,000 "Scottish Village" created by VisitScotland, the tourist board, to showcase the nation's assets to journalists. It also emerged yesterday that about 3500 police will protect Edinburgh's financial district on what is expected to be the most disruptive day of protests. About one-third of the dedicated G8 police contingent will be in the city for the "Carnival For Full Enjoyment" event on July 4. Authorities admit that they are unsure who is behind the Lothian Road protest ??? thought to be aimed at "industries such as banks, loan and insurance firms [that] thrive on indebtedness". It is feared that the Wombles, an anarchist group who caused violence at the 2001 May Day rally in London, will be involved. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From hjdsmdr at mixmail.com Fri Jul 1 11:29:06 2005 From: hjdsmdr at mixmail.com (adriana) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:29:06 +0100 Subject: [dissent-tech] G8 Summit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42C51AF2.60303@mixmail.com> Visit the Dissent webpage, madonna Ciccone, every detail for your transport is there madonna Ciccone wrote: > My friends and I are thinking of marchign against the G8 summit in > Edinburgh, but would like to find out more. And what to do. Can you help? > > Susan > > _________________________________________________________________ > Winks & nudges are here - download MSN Messenger 7.0 today! > http://messenger.msn.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > dissent-tech mailing list > dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech > > -- "Porque o ?nico sentido oculto das cousas ? elas n?o terem sentido oculto nenhum" (A. Caeiro) http://www.sheffield.dissent.org.uk/ http://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/G8 g8-sheffield mailing list g8-sheffield at lists.aktivix.org http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/g8-sheffield From lists at j12.org Fri Jul 1 15:17:10 2005 From: lists at j12.org (Space Bunny) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:17:10 +0100 Subject: [dissent-tech] G8-Bring Rope+Karabiners Place to Stay + MOVING the G8 leaders In-Reply-To: <1120209543.3265.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1120209543.3265.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42C55066.7080707@j12.org> . wrote: >People are saying make sure that you bring rope ( 10mm builders blue >polyproperlene will do) and any old rock climbing carabiners ( as many >as possible ). Try to >get 50+ metres of rope. - old climbers rope is also great. > >And bring waterproof walking boots and 1 litr water bottles. > >I'm not going to say why you should bring it here on this open list, but >just have a little think - they could well be the most useful things >that you take to the whole event. Trust me on this one please - it's >been VERY useful in the past... > > good stuff. also before setting out see check list at: http://silver.j12.org/list.htm >/////////////////////////////////// > >Perhaps an alternative place to stay is:- (it's been on other bulitin >boards) >Bilston Glen - woodland community >http://www.bilstonglen-abs.org.uk/news.htm > > See this first: http://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/reshape/2005-04/msg00028.html There are actually plenty of other suitable crash spots around Edinburgh, ask around. There are plenty of other spots that one might be able to stay at, if one does like Council Campsite at Jack Kane centre. Which is now to be free. I am wondering why this was sent to dissent-tech list which is only really about maintaining website, which is running smoothly. But those with admin access should feel free to add news. which emailing website group list I will say: There is a fair bit missing from website that could go on, I am trying to get to hand full details of gigs tonight. Counterspin wanted some more contact info adding, and may email it. -- -- http://j12.org/sb/ From simaloko at hotmail.com Thu Jul 7 14:04:17 2005 From: simaloko at hotmail.com (Simon Thompson) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:04:17 +0000 Subject: [dissent-tech] whats going on? Message-ID: What that your organisation that protested againest the G8 summit in scotland a few days ago? I dont agree with any of your points of view. Im pro capitalist, pro globalisation and support the war on global terrorism. In my opinion if you dont like the democratic freedom of the west which allows capitalism and the efforts of western governments to make everyones life better.. why dont you just leave and move to the eastern world? I'd like a reply from yourselves if your not too busy, you must have reasons for doing what your doing, i dont see them so maybe you should tell me. Awaiting your response, Simon Thompson From simon at shine.eu.org Thu Jul 7 14:27:00 2005 From: simon at shine.eu.org (Simon Shine) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:27:00 +0200 Subject: [dissent-tech] whats going on? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42CD2DA4.7040104@shine.eu.org> Dear Simon Thompson, Simon Thompson wrote: > > What that your organisation that protested againest the G8 summit in > scotland a few days ago? I dont agree with any of your points of view. > Im pro capitalist, pro globalisation and support the war on global > terrorism. I'm happy to meet you! > In my opinion if you dont like the democratic freedom of the west which > allows capitalism and the efforts of western governments to make > everyones life better.. why dont you just leave and move to the eastern > world? Fortunately, we have a bin entirely filled with opinion hats that one can utilise whenever moody. I believe that there are many reasons not to move to the eastern regions of the world, of which most are personal. > I'd like a reply from yourselves if your not too busy, you must have > reasons for doing what your doing, i dont see them so maybe you should > tell me. As a matter of fact, you picked a very bad time. Mostly everyone is busy with the G8 meetings and how to wreck them best possible. To top that, this is the '-tech' list, meaning that technological matters are mostly dealt with. What you are presenting appears mostly as a trollish attempt at debate, which is cool, but keep it to the right mailing list. If you do not see the reasons for acting, as presented on the website, you may need glasses. To illustrate my point, try simply and analyse the image and the text on the front page. From July 6-8th, violent extremists will be coming to Scotland... They'll be trying to meet at the Gleneagles hotel, and we'll be trying to stop them. This is obviously a pun on a reputation that many of the demonstrating groups of people traveling to Scotland this year have gained through the mainstream media, being anarchists, punks and the scum of society with no incentives to be less than extremely violent. This in mind, the picture is turned 180 degrees by pointing out that the real extremists in terms of humanity are the executives and world leaders trying to hold the G8 meeting. As you are entitled to your opinion hat, you should be able to see by now that at least 250,000 people are actively not agreeing with you. This is just an analysis of the first three lines on the Dissent website. If you click onto the "Introduction to the Dissent network" and the "What is the G8?" links, as presented in the left side of the Dissent website, you will be able to learn about the motivation for acting. I hope you find what you are looking for. -- Best regards, Simon Shine GPG Key ID: 0x7BAEDE28 From ayrplay at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jul 8 14:29:55 2005 From: ayrplay at yahoo.co.uk (James) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:29:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050708132955.56303.qmail@web26506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> LISTEN YOU BUNCH OF UNWASHED TAX DODGING LAYABOUTS ! WHY DON'T YOU ALL WAKE UP AND REALISE THAT YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM, NOT THE SOLUTION !!! BLAIR BUSH AND ALL THESE OTHER IDIOTS ARE QUITE HAPPY FOR YOU TO MAKE NOISE ABOUT GLOBALISATION AS IT MEANS THEY CAN AVOID THE REAL ISSUES THAT US HONEST HARD WORKING TAX PAYING CITIZENS CARE ABOUT.... THEN WHEN WE ACTUALLY USE OUR VOTES, THESE CLOWNS USE YOUR POINTLESS ISSUES AS A SMOKESCREEN FOR NON INVESTMENT IN THE EXCUSE OF A COUNTRY THAT WE HAVE TO LIVE IN !!! I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET HOME TONIGHT BECAUSE OF YOUR "BOOGIE" SO I HOPE YOU'R ALL NURSING BATON BRUISES TOMORROW AND THAT SOME OF THE MOTORISTS PASSING YOU, CLIP YOU A NICE ONE !! THANKS FOR PUBLISHING THESE EMAIL ADDRESSES........... PREPARE FOR SPAM ATTACK AND A DENIAL OF SERVICE ATTACK !! LOSERS !!!! ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From simon at shine.eu.org Fri Jul 8 14:48:01 2005 From: simon at shine.eu.org (Simon Shine) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:48:01 +0200 Subject: [dissent-tech] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20050708132955.56303.qmail@web26506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050708132955.56303.qmail@web26506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42CE8411.3070804@shine.eu.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 James wrote: > LISTEN YOU BUNCH OF UNWASHED TAX DODGING LAYABOUTS ! WHY DON'T YOU ALL > WAKE UP AND REALISE THAT YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM, NOT THE SOLUTION > !!! > > BLAIR BUSH AND ALL THESE OTHER IDIOTS ARE QUITE HAPPY FOR YOU TO MAKE > NOISE ABOUT GLOBALISATION AS IT MEANS THEY CAN AVOID THE REAL ISSUES > THAT US HONEST HARD WORKING TAX PAYING CITIZENS CARE ABOUT.... I don't think they are specifically 'happy' about the uproar, but I think they will attempt to turn it into as much an advantage as they can. Anything else would be illogical. > THEN WHEN WE ACTUALLY USE OUR VOTES, THESE CLOWNS USE YOUR POINTLESS > ISSUES AS A SMOKESCREEN FOR NON INVESTMENT IN THE EXCUSE OF A COUNTRY > THAT WE HAVE TO LIVE IN !!! Exactly what is your point; that because people do what the government feels needs critical masses of police to handle, this priority will later affect your politicians' choices? Maybe you should bet on other politicians. > I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET HOME TONIGHT BECAUSE OF YOUR "BOOGIE" SO I > HOPE YOU'R ALL NURSING BATON BRUISES TOMORROW AND THAT SOME OF THE > MOTORISTS PASSING YOU, CLIP YOU A NICE ONE !! You sound like one angry man. Is this all because of traffic delays one single evening? > THANKS FOR PUBLISHING THESE EMAIL ADDRESSES........... PREPARE FOR SPAM > ATTACK AND A DENIAL OF SERVICE ATTACK !! And you would be willing to go through this all because some people delayed you at the motorway one evening? Exactly what justifies your spam attacks that doesn't justify the Dissent! actions that kept you up, besides your own, self-righteous opinion? > LOSERS !!!! At least I win in chess. 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