From tabitha747 at riseup.net Wed May 4 14:34:13 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 06:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] website issue In-Reply-To: <4229A09D.8080906@j12.org> References: <20050303133508.31723.qmail@web25307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4229A09D.8080906@j12.org> Message-ID: <35048.tabitha747.1115213653.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Hey there, I'm back after a bit of a break. I don't think i'm going to the nottingham meeting as i'm already commited to going to a wedding. We really need to get some basic web training for people e.g. for uploading publicity, news, calender items as well as maintaining pages for working groups etc. Can anyone commit to offering this and ensuring there is time for it etc at the gathering. I still don't know what i'll be doing around the actual summit but sitting in front of a computer is not high on my agenda - but good updating of the site will be important and so we need to make sure lots of people are being pro-active a and some one is tidying it up. (well maybe not so much around the summit but definately in the build up). What do you guys think? Maybe we could advertise a meeting time at the gathering and training times beforehand? love T From julichan at no-log.org Fri May 6 07:05:48 2005 From: julichan at no-log.org (julichan at no-log.org) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:05:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [dissent-tech] Paris Message-ID: <49252.julichan.1115359548.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Hi everyone, I am not sure I am writing to the appropriate list, but I have some questions and dont know where to send them. We are trying to mobilize people from France to come to the G8. We are thinking on going there by bus. Which means gathering with many other buses from Europe, in Calais (in order to avoid being blocked by the police), on the 2nd of July, and move up North to Scotland. Have you heard about other European groups ? What do they plan ? Do you seen any problems in doing what I previously explained ? We heard of two convergence center, one in Edimburg or Glasgow and one in the countryside ? Where should we go to ? Merci et des bises de Paris. julie From revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk Sat May 7 13:32:33 2005 From: revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk (revolting) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 13:32:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] Stuff about the website. Message-ID: <20050507123234.97971.qmail@web25701.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hiya, Just a few comments/suggestions about the web page. 1) To be clear about the www.international.dissent.org.uk (or what ever it is) web page. Someone was going to use this as a page to store translated documents on. It was supposed to be an easy to navigate site and only contain the essential information. The person who took this on hasn't had the time to see it through and, as far as I know, isn't likely too either. 2) I also think that the website could do with a serious aesthetic overhall. Let's try and find someone skilled in web design to have a go at this. A while ago, someone suggested the people who put together the McSpotlight website and the people involved in the J18 website should be approached. Both these sites ended up winning awards for their appearance, content, ease of navigation etc... and they were put together by movement people. I'll try and track them down. For anyone thinking about putting together a website, I think that (regardless of the content of the websites) the following sites are all stylistically different from one another but are each provide good models of an attractive, straightforward and easy to navigate website and the sort of thing we should be aiming towards: http://www.antifaschistische-aktion.com/ http://www.ukesf.net/en/ http://www.kp-berlin.de/ http://www.indymedia.org.uk/ http://www.stressfaktor.squat.net/ 3) Sorry, I still don't have an access code for uploading stuff onto the website. Can someone update the "Donations" sub-section with the new info: Donate against the G8! Donations can now be made via the Dissent! webpage! or visit www.tenpounds.org This July, the G8 is coming to Gleneagles, Scotland. The Dissent! Network is mobilising to ensure that the Summit does not pass by uncontested. Preparations are well underway and we have found a Convergence Centre. However, we urgently need funds to pay for the massive ammount of resources needed to accommodate the 10's of thousands of protesters expected. We estimate that we need to raise a further ?30,000!! Please make a generous donation to the Dissent! Network through our webpage http://www.dissent.org.uk/donate.html, or by direct deposit into our bank account: Account Name: Dissent Bank Name: The Cooperative Bank Sort Code: 08-92-99 Account Number 6515 5518 For international bank transfers you will also need the following codes: IBAN: GB85 CPBK 0892 9965 1555 18 SWIFT: CPBKGB22 Cheques can also be made out to "The Dissent Network" and mailed to: "Dissent Funding, Box 8, 245 Gladstone Street, Forest Fields, Nottingham, NG7 6HX". Other payment methods are available on our webpage. How You Can Help: * Forward this email, and get in touch with people or organisations you know who might have available funds or be able to help raise funds. * Help with our Ten Pounds Appeal at http://www.tenpounds.org * Host events in your local area to both raise funds and awareness. * ask websites to link to our donate button at http://www.dissent.org.uk/donate.html Additional fundraising ideas can be found at: www.dissent.org.uk/content/view/90/66/ For more information on the Dissent! Network, visit www.dissent.org.uk To contact us with questions, or to get help with fundraising, email: dissent-funding (at) lists.riseup.net That's it for now. See ya! And nice one to all those who have done an excellent job of maintaining the website up until now. Hope this is considered constructive input rather than criticism. And appologies for making suggestions without being able to be involved in the tech/design stuff directly myself (due to serious lack of skills). --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050507/c3ae9444/attachment.html From sabs at tinyworld.co.uk Tue May 3 13:39:09 2005 From: sabs at tinyworld.co.uk (sabs at tinyworld.co.uk) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:39:09 +0100 Subject: [dissent-tech] new dissent group Message-ID: <425329E90009303F@mk-cpfrontend-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com> We are trying to launch Southampton Dissent! First meeting (with an open agenda as you would expect) to be held Mon 16 May at Freedom Bar, High Street, Southampton. Address/contact details to follow.. on behalf of the others ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/ From namasteeji at gmail.com Sat May 7 22:50:48 2005 From: namasteeji at gmail.com (ji namastee) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 23:50:48 +0200 Subject: [dissent-tech] for the website Message-ID: Hi there, Maybe you could put the webadress and contactdetails of the Belgian mobilization to on the website! DISSENT! website: www.stopg8.be e-mail: stopg8 at gmail.com subscribe to our list: stopdeg8-subscribe at lists.riseup.net The website also has a really good list of websites of anti-g8 mobilization, click on the link: Links thank you! pieter From J.Oppenheim at damtp.cam.ac.uk Sat May 7 13:12:31 2005 From: J.Oppenheim at damtp.cam.ac.uk (Jonathan Oppenheim) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 13:12:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] website redesign Message-ID: regarding website redisign, and an international page: i have bbc'd a few people, who if they want to continue with this discussion, should subscribe to to the dissent-tech list http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech A number of people feel we should redesign the webpage a bit, in light of our changing audience as we approach the g8 summit. One easy approach is to have the first news item take up most of the page, and essentially be a good looking image with links to click on for people wanting an intro, and people wanting to get involved, and for the international webpage. The international webpage link is below, and perhaps the international working group can quickly put up a logo, and have links to all the international pages. http: //international.dissent.org.uk/ Those who are interested in design, include some people i have bbc'd including A. S. and perhaps the people who did tenpounds.org who might be interested in helping. If you are, please join the tech list, and go crazy! xj From J.Oppenheim at damtp.cam.ac.uk Mon May 9 01:56:11 2005 From: J.Oppenheim at damtp.cam.ac.uk (Jonathan Oppenheim) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 01:56:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] web changes In-Reply-To: <200505051100.j45B0ExU022393@springnight.burngreave.net> References: <200505051100.j45B0ExU022393@springnight.burngreave.net> Message-ID: A fair bit has now changed on the website, including a convergence info section, wishlistt additions, contact us page, etc. And more sectioning, e.g. "Get Involved" has many of the resources for members of the network, including the "Adminstrator" link, and "Resources, is to be a starting point for our resources (right now, mostly just document downloads), but should include g8 resources. It is just a start, and hopefully people can start to link up some of the sections that were taken down. I find the static pages for sections more easy on the eye than the news sections which often become a mess. Hopefully nothing has been fucked up, so please let me know if things should be changed. xj From lists at j12.org Mon May 9 08:35:14 2005 From: lists at j12.org (Space Bunny) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 08:35:14 +0100 Subject: [dissent-tech] Dissent website admin tips Message-ID: <427F12B2.70207@j12.org> If using the groovie Mozilla/Firefox browser or other browser which blocks javascript popups please add dissent site to 'allow' list as several features of wysiwyg editor us popup panels. Always save or cancel any article edit don't just close a window. After finishing all edits checkin articles (link on left hand menu of front end when logged in) just in case one has not done that. I often note admins have left several articles checked out with them. If someone wants to do a new template for website to add new version of look and feel. Then let us know and look up on website of the websolution Mambo that we use how to do and got for it. If some one wants to do some static html pages for dissent to be served up from dissent.org.uk let us know and go for it. cheers space bunny http://j12.org/sb/web.htm From revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 9 11:39:24 2005 From: revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk (revolting) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 11:39:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] web changes In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050509103925.69019.qmail@web25707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I think the changes are really helpful. I've got a few other suggestions about how to make the site a bit easier to use and a little easier to navigate. Seeing as I *still* haven't gotton around to getting an access code or trained up on how to become an administrator (I did kind of try, actually, but time ran out with having to do other, more pressing things at the gathering) I'm not sure if my comments are being taken as useful comments or as an obnoxious "you lot should be doing it like this." I hope its the former rather than the latter. Please feel free to let me know if suggestions such as these are unhelpful. 1) I think the look of the homepage would be greatly imporved if the distinction between articles was made clearer (perhaps each one being in its own little box) and if the article followed a standard format in terms of look. For example, the headline could all be in 12 point Ariel Bold, the name of the author and date of posting in 8 point Ariel, and the body of the article in 10 point Tahoma (just a random example, by the way). The site might look a bit less "messy" then. I really think the IMC UK site is a good model here. Lots of articles, lots of info, but the subsections and various stories are clearly defined from one another. 2) I'm confussed as to why the info under "Get Involved" is not under the "Convergence Info" sub-section. I'd say that the "Get Involved" section should read something like this: "The 2005 G8 Summit is rapidly approaching. Preparations are well underway, but there is still an enormous amount left to do. Now is the time to get involved! Dissent! is a network of autonomous local groups, based in towns and cities across the UK and further afield. The best way to get involved is to contact your local group. A list of Dissent! Network affiliated local groups can be found here [INSERT LINK]. If you are based in Ireland [INSERT LINK TO IRISH DISSENT! NETWORK], German-speaking parts of Europe [INSERT LINK TO GERMAN LANGUAGE SITE HERE], the Netherlands [INSERT DUTCH MOBILISATION SITE HERE], France [INSERT LINK TO FRENCH MOBILISATION HERE], or Greece [INSERT LINK TO GREEK ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN MOVEMENT SPECIAL G8 SITE HERE], contact your local mobilisation and find out how to get involved. Dissent! also consists of a number of Working Groups focussing on different aspects of the mobilisation - from action planning to practical logisitics. Get involved with the particular aspect of the mobilisation which most interests you, or that you think you have the most to offer. A list of Working Groups is available here [INSERT LINK TO WORKING GROUP LIST HERE]. In particular, help is needed with the Convergence Centre (more info here: [INSERT LINK TO THE CONVERGENCE INFO SECTION HERE]) and fundraising. A list of tips on how to fundraise, and methods of paying money into the Dissent! bank account are available here [INSERT LINK TO FUNDING SECTION]. The Convergence Centre will be an open space to come along, meet others and plan action! Come along as early as possible, bring your own ideas and any resources you think might be useful and get involved!" All the info currently in the "Get Involved" section could then be put in the "Convergence Info" section under the information that is already there. 3) Just to make it a little clearer, in the "Contact Us" section, it'd maybe be good to change the bit saying "International Networking: info-g82005 at riseup.net" so it just says "If you are based outside of the UK, for more information contact: info-g82005 at riseup.net" just 'cos international networking is a little ambiguous. 4) In the "Sections" section, can there be a link to the Days of Dissent: Reflections on Summit Mobilisations magazine. Perhaps the whole title of the magazine could go in there, or just Reflections on Summit Mobilisations, if there's not room. The domain is: www.daysofdissent.org.uk 5) I think the "look" of the site would be much improved by making the banner at the top a bit more funky. The little graphic in the top right hand corner is a little odd and the font could be a bit more exciting. I'll see if I can find a nicer font and a picture to suggest as the banner. Or we could all ask around amongst any designers to see if anyone's up for sorting out a nice banner. That's all. Again, hope its more useful than annoying having someone without access posting to this list. See you all in Notts! Jonathan Oppenheim wrote: A fair bit has now changed on the website, including a convergence info section, wishlistt additions, contact us page, etc. And more sectioning, e.g. "Get Involved" has many of the resources for members of the network, including the "Adminstrator" link, and "Resources, is to be a starting point for our resources (right now, mostly just document downloads), but should include g8 resources. It is just a start, and hopefully people can start to link up some of the sections that were taken down. I find the static pages for sections more easy on the eye than the news sections which often become a mess. Hopefully nothing has been fucked up, so please let me know if things should be changed. xj _______________________________________________ dissent-tech mailing list dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050509/1d15a879/attachment.html From tabitha747 at riseup.net Mon May 9 15:05:55 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 07:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] Paris In-Reply-To: <49252.julichan.1115359548.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <49252.julichan.1115359548.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: <33825.tabitha747.1115647555.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> I've forwarded your e-mail to the international networking list. They should be able to help. Please get back in touch if you get no further response. T > Hi everyone, > > I am not sure I am writing to the appropriate list, but I have some > questions and dont know where to send them. > > We are trying to mobilize people from France to come to the G8. > We are thinking on going there by bus. Which means gathering with many > other buses from Europe, in Calais (in order to avoid being blocked by the > police), on the 2nd of July, and move up North to Scotland. > > Have you heard about other European groups ? What do they plan ? > Do you seen any problems in doing what I previously explained ? > We heard of two convergence center, one in Edimburg or Glasgow and one in > the countryside ? Where should we go to ? > > Merci et des bises de Paris. > julie > _______________________________________________ > dissent-tech mailing list > dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech > From activist_trauma at riseup.net Mon May 9 13:01:51 2005 From: activist_trauma at riseup.net (activist_trauma at riseup.net) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 05:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] activist trauma for dissent web Message-ID: <62843.activist_trauma.1115640111.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> hi, here is the invitation for the trauma training and gathering. would be great if you could put it on the page. could you also put a link to www.activist-trauma.net under links? unfortunately you have been sent a working group description full of mistakes. would you mind changing it to this one? sorry for the hussle, was very stupid... Trauma Working Group Aims to inform and support activists who have had traumatic experiences, e.g. police brutality. This support network that will hopefully continue after the G8. We are organising a six day training and a gathering about trauma and are looking for people to get involved. www.activist-trauma.net activist_trauma at riseup.net activist_trauma-subscribe at lists.riseup.net (open info and discussion list) To join the internal working group list please send us an email. ++44 (0)1865 243 121 hope this is fine and thanks a lot for you work ! all the best g. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We're writing up a thing for it - which still needs to be commented on by some of the other kitchens, hopefully we'll have it done in a week or so, but for now, reckon it's worth at least adding in there (cos at the moment it sounds like no one is cooking for anyone there at all and people need to be entirely self sufficient): There is a catering group that is co-ordinating kitchens from within the movement to come and cook at the convergence space. You can help by bringing your own cutlery, plate, bowl and mug, helping in the kitchens, as well as bringing any (preferably vegan) food donations along! More info to follow. ta! ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - want a free and easy way to contact your friends online? http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From MariaPasionara at aol.com Sun May 1 17:09:38 2005 From: MariaPasionara at aol.com (MariaPasionara at aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 12:09:38 EDT Subject: [dissent-tech] how the G8 finance fellow species extermination and habitat destruction Message-ID: <36.71e6fa22.2fa65942@aol.com> The Killer Species that's killing itself: (cretins who call imperative change "unrealistic") Humans in their infinite stupidity have determined that they are the master-race of the planet. They want to save the environment by killing off Nature and Fellow species so that ever more humans can "survive". They make consumption more expensive so that they can demand more income to pay for it; in effect nothing humans have done has either decreased their numbers nor their insane destructive consumption. The global money supply explosion over the last 50 years speaks for itself. The fact that every job costs on average 10KW per hour, produces about 6,5 tonnes of CO2 emissions p.a. involves around 5,500 miles of polluting travel p.a. and creates more than 365,000 kgs. of waste p.a. is ignored by the Kyoto charlatans who are crying out for ever more economic growth and job creation. Only idiots cannot see this. Consequently they are destroying everything that's not human made; exterminating in the process all major Fellow Species and Natural Habitat. No animal would be stupid enough to wipe out its life support system other than humans. By converting all Natural Values into money humans have created a suicidal economic system whereby the more they destroy through consumption; i.e. economic growth - the greater the financial rewards of the destroyer and consequential increased valuation of the diminishing remains of Nature; i.e. Land/Water/Air which ironically produces the illusory profits/finance - as resources run out/become scarce and hence increase in cost - that increase and accelerate the process of destruction that ultimately will be killing off the humans themselves. In a grotesque charade of financial acumen - humans "value" the most successful Nature and Fellow Species destroyers in ever higher monetary values on the stock markets in a gigantic wealth explosion that finances ever more of the same amongst those who control the destruction engines that expand their destruction activities in a limitless spiral that is ultimately self-destructive. Unlike ordinary animals who don't have delusions of planet domination humans are so self-engrossed that they can't see the madness of their over-proliferating/over-populating quantum impact. More humans=more consumption=more automated mass-production/chain sales=less jobs for the poor=more wealth for the rich=more investment in more of the same=global habitat/fellow species destruction=environmental suicide. Dividing the ever smaller resources amongst ever larger numbers of humans is creating an ever greater flood of money that accelerates the process of resource depletion thereby forcing the breeding of ever more consumers - who will be tomorrow's victims - to prevent the self-inflating, churning bogus economy from collapsing. In an insane process of global hongkongisation/sardineisation humans replace Nature and Fellow Species with infrastructure that causes all the problems including sickness, illness, diseases, injuries, poverty, accidents, ignorance, insanity, addictions, infernal noise, racism, xenophobia, crime, violence, nature and fellow species destruction and general ego-centric hooliganism which they combat with more infrastructure like a malignant cancer that cannot stop as long as there is something to attack and to destroy including itself. Cancers grow and die with the bodies they attack. The carbon fuel depletion will lead to a new nuclear overproliferation that will turn the planet into a radioactive waste dump because there is not sufficient land or water for infernal, forest/bird-killing wind turbines and solar panels to power 6500 million humans increasing at more than 80 million every year. Ever more humans cause heavy metal/plastic poisoned fish, agri-chemical/pesticide riddled food/water and polluted air yet they don't have the brains to correlate the quantum of their over-population to that of their self-destruction. Most scientists work on tiny little samples in minute parameters and - unlike Einstein - cannot see or understand the global picture. Since Einstein's death humans have more than doubled their numbers and more than quintupled their destructive quantum impact. When they discover the odd speck of Nature so far left untouched they immediately promote it as a development opportunity under the global motto of: IF IT DOESN'T MAKE MONEY IT ISN'T WORTH SAVING. This is how the humans have cretinised themselves to such an extent that the only sense they can make of their absurd global over-proliferation is by multiplying themselves in ever greater numbers believing that they are the only valid species on the planet and have a god given right to over-populate and exterminate all other species and destroy/pollute/poison their habitat which they call "wealth creation, progress, civilisation, freedom, justice even peace"; (sustained by deliberate and successful international government policy to share nothing other than ignorance and endless hype/lies) that's why they cannot even read or understand _www.equalearth.org_ (http://www.equalearth.org) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050501/e0be8ee7/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 5634 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050501/e0be8ee7/attachment.gif From J.Oppenheim at damtp.cam.ac.uk Mon May 9 12:09:50 2005 From: J.Oppenheim at damtp.cam.ac.uk (Jonathan Oppenheim) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 12:09:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] web changes In-Reply-To: <20050509103925.69019.qmail@web25707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050509103925.69019.qmail@web25707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I agree with Mr. Revolting, on all points, the wishlist is just where it is due to running out of time. And sending texts is helpful, as long as there is someone willing to upload them and add in links. This i think is a real killer, as there are too few people doing this, and mostly people already doing too many things. The "Get involved" text that revolting suggested could also include some stuff about the elist and announce list. I am pretty well out of commission this week, so sorry to also be on the unhelpful side... I would just add that what would improve the site a lot is if the first item at the top of the news section was something funky, and graphic, with links to the international sites so that people looking for the .de or .fr could get there quickly. It could even include some of the "get involved text". The admins would then have to make sure that it was always the top item of approved news, which might be a pain. it seems the problem with this happening is just that everyone keeps saying this, but no one does it. Yet both the S.E. forum and tenpounds have funky sites, so we do have the skills within. Both the resources section and the intro to g8 section also need some more text and work. I think it would be good to have a brief g8 faq which dispels a lot of the PR fluff that blair is putting out. I think this needs to be the very first point we address. Finally, the media section needs some work, eg. links to groups which can comment on specific issues (eg rising tide), etc. and links to a nice g8 faq. There is some text for this floating around, and i can send it to anyone who has some time to put it up. sorry to also be unhelpful, and feel free to tell me to jump. xoj On Mon, 9 May 2005, revolting wrote: > I think the changes are really helpful. I've got a few other suggestions about how to make the site a bit easier to use and a little easier to navigate. Seeing as I *still* haven't gotton around to getting an access code or trained up on how to become an administrator (I did kind of try, actually, but time ran out with having to do other, more pressing things at the gathering) I'm not sure if my comments are being taken as useful comments or as an obnoxious "you lot should be doing it like this." I hope its the former rather than the latter. Please feel free to let me know if suggestions such as these are unhelpful. > > 1) I think the look of the homepage would be greatly imporved if the distinction between articles was made clearer (perhaps each one being in its own little box) and if the article followed a standard format in terms of look. For example, the headline could all be in 12 point Ariel Bold, the name of the author and date of posting in 8 point Ariel, and the body of the article in 10 point Tahoma (just a random example, by the way). The site might look a bit less "messy" then. I really think the IMC UK site is a good model here. Lots of articles, lots of info, but the subsections and various stories are clearly defined from one another. > 2) I'm confussed as to why the info under "Get Involved" is not under > the "Convergence Info" sub-section. I'd say that the "Get Involved" > section should read something like this: > "The 2005 G8 Summit is rapidly approaching. Preparations are well > underway, but there is still an enormous amount left to do. Now is the > time to get involved! Dissent! is a network of autonomous local groups, > based in towns and cities across the UK and further afield. The best way > to get involved is to contact your local group. A list of Dissent! > Network affiliated local groups can be found here [INSERT LINK]. If you > are based in Ireland [INSERT LINK TO IRISH DISSENT! NETWORK], > German-speaking parts of Europe [INSERT LINK TO GERMAN LANGUAGE SITE > HERE], the Netherlands [INSERT DUTCH MOBILISATION SITE HERE], France > [INSERT LINK TO FRENCH MOBILISATION HERE], or Greece [INSERT LINK TO > GREEK ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN MOVEMENT SPECIAL G8 SITE HERE], contact your > local mobilisation and find out how to get involved. > Dissent! also consists of a number of Working Groups focussing on > different aspects of the mobilisation - from action planning to > practical logisitics. Get involved with the particular aspect of the > mobilisation which most interests you, or that you think you have the > most to offer. A list of Working Groups is available here [INSERT LINK > TO WORKING GROUP LIST HERE]. > In particular, help is needed with the Convergence Centre (more info > here: [INSERT LINK TO THE CONVERGENCE INFO SECTION HERE]) and > fundraising. A list of tips on how to fundraise, and methods of paying > money into the Dissent! bank account are available here [INSERT LINK TO > FUNDING SECTION]. > The Convergence Centre will be an open space to come along, meet others > and plan action! Come along as early as possible, bring your own ideas > and any resources you think might be useful and get involved!" > All the info currently in the "Get Involved" section could then be put > in the "Convergence Info" section under the information that is already > there. > > 3) Just to make it a little clearer, in the "Contact Us" section, it'd maybe be good to change the bit saying "International Networking: info-g82005 at riseup.net" so it just says "If you are based outside of the UK, for more information contact: info-g82005 at riseup.net" just 'cos international networking is a little ambiguous. > > 4) In the "Sections" section, can there be a link to the Days of Dissent: Reflections on Summit Mobilisations magazine. Perhaps the whole title of the magazine could go in there, or just Reflections on Summit Mobilisations, if there's not room. The domain is: www.daysofdissent.org.uk > > 5) I think the "look" of the site would be much improved by making the banner at the top a bit more funky. The little graphic in the top right hand corner is a little odd and the font could be a bit more exciting. I'll see if I can find a nicer font and a picture to suggest as the banner. Or we could all ask around amongst any designers to see if anyone's up for sorting out a nice banner. > > That's all. Again, hope its more useful than annoying having someone without access posting to this list. > > See you all in Notts! > > Jonathan Oppenheim wrote: > A fair bit has now changed on the website, including a > convergence info section, wishlistt additions, contact us page, etc. > And more sectioning, e.g. "Get Involved" has many of the > resources for members of the network, including the > "Adminstrator" link, and "Resources, is to be a starting > point for our resources (right now, mostly just document downloads), > but should include g8 resources. > > It is just a start, and hopefully people can start to link up some > of the sections that were taken down. > > I find the static pages for sections more easy on the eye than the > news sections which often become a mess. Hopefully nothing has been > fucked up, so please let me know if things should be changed. > > xj > > _______________________________________________ > dissent-tech mailing list > dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech > > > --------------------------------- > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos -- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) mQGiBEG+HN8RBADRCYwQkkNDEF2iHXyzrpx4cUjmH83BbVW2aGBVDYduXkD5askh D8xQj2yJz4HEamoYd1qPS1ljKD61w49UzOydlIdVaFcjOH59Rr86A+nsZooRLhrX AB6QrquaZ67dfwKjH3/rrSDYB3VVUmmu+9UIJaB/KKZGnSlmg/DLHLKRhwCg0SGs h84cNR2K6aak+pl739jkJDkD/jm3yZMlMYyCp98wyEBFmyK248Rw9jFsZSjKIfsJ cwOiqX7eONZ3rSIWcoaTtvzrFQ77nHrfLRTK7oAYOG8CthVTcP1MkriNoi/uah52 w5co/oDgO9S1SYx7uxqVJvSoSlf3A/vU2aRNY0RDsCV5/zR66Z7BzYRuKu2lP2mK B8sPBADAHTFEjv2iFY3jrWDBpJ0zjjyf6SRD2pYEfKlsCPpOpJAqxBMRSWdmX0ad MpsrcV+kkblLTvyl9oHcgjhGxs4awHKke6RzYdI/27YHVUxM7KNybffqMBQVVkrX gY14I9YCJZnywaUZAR6+eulU0L7w2y0bacRpcKWkgdfQNWMUybYAAAA1Sm9uYXRo YW4gb3BwZW5oZWltIChkZWMgMjAwNSkgPGpvMjcwQGRhbXRwLmNhbS5hYy51az6I WwQTEQIAGwUCQb4c3wYLCQgHAwIDFQIDAxYCAQIeAQIXgAAKCRD/dgnPRbDXfCF6 AJ4ppckEiZAitCIbdpt/gC1jmCE7cQCgrqJhJ1DN+e0A1nKg85c025fXa+e5AQ0E Qb4c4BAEAOhtJbAa1C+ns1QbyguKMWJdWo9lvq8a9cbAlalkPZ4GYZjYiqiJA1F8 sOmN49AHhfu4irT7lqUk7Csw3Vw8Gts9BvgjdbXUnILoyhX0Ml9WCr4QGZu2uZzN 8EHoDQHoUVDssmgdIKwnstp1IKXXyBXm+entjRxWexxhvEk0K+hrAAMFBADMcah7 zsGpZe9q4DX4lKzcwwfZcUqyiUG5Mxi0Mu01lmfM385XWlXKbeaQQKTclaMDZTEa zye3dzpF1WU1ZxxJ80ccqUZde3i4a47qW8Exolip72MJoWCuLdUzY7MNy8TTQBTK y2m1ulkcWvY6rwyPYvj/Skq53YC2gkszNRJ8rIhGBBgRAgAGBQJBvhzgAAoJEP92 Cc9FsNd8i38AnRmjIhHnt8j0M4e36F2WPQ7ba48qAJ9QntSJMGgOLzk+QuYG0jaN Ng/jKA== =co5L -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From trainforg8 at hushmail.com Mon May 9 17:52:08 2005 From: trainforg8 at hushmail.com (trainforg8 at hushmail.com) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:52:08 -0700 Subject: [dissent-tech] Icon for SE Assembly train to G8 Message-ID: <200505091652.j49GqC8r046050@mailserver3.hushmail.com> Hi, Would it be possible for you to add the attached image on the front of your web page and link it to "www.resistg8.org.uk". This is for the train to scotland organised by the SE Assembly. Thanks again SE Assembly - Transport Group -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: trainicon.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2657 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050509/fb5da8d6/attachment.jpg From revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 11 15:29:22 2005 From: revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk (revolting) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:29:22 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] working group and local group web links Message-ID: <20050511142922.43817.qmail@web25701.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> How come the working group and local group weblinks have been taken off the left hand column of the homepage? I think it'd be great if they were still up. I know they can be accessed in a round about way via another link, but I think it's good for them to be kept prominent. See ya! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050511/75e05247/attachment.html From revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk Thu May 12 18:43:34 2005 From: revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk (revolting) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:43:34 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] Fwd: [resistg82005] Please add this to the Dissent Website Message-ID: <20050512174334.94432.qmail@web25707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> This came to the resistg8 list>>> trainforg8 at hushmail.com wrote:Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:38:42 -0700 To: CC: From: Subject: [resistg82005] Please add this to the Dissent Website Okay, it may be me but can't seem to communicate with the techies on the dissent website, so can someone please add this info ASAP with the Icon if possible on the front page (or anywhere). Cheers SE Assembly - Transport group :::::::: >>GET ON BOARD THE SOUTH EAST ASSEMBLY TRAIN! The G8 Summit takes place in Gleneagles, Scotland from the 6th-8th July 2005. However, there will be many events, demos and direct actions around Scotland in the days leading up to the summit. The South East Assembly has chartered two trains to take people up to the protests against the G8 summit. This will also include the huge Make Poverty History march on July 2nd in Edinburgh. Every day there will be different protests at nulcear bases (Faslane July 4th), detention centres (Dungavel July 5th) and several other initiatives which need support. The trains will depart early morning from London Kings Cross and arrive in Edinburgh where accommodation (bring sleeping bags and tents!) will be provided for free. Booking a seat (All trains departs LONDON Kings Cross 7am arriving EDINBURGH 1pm) LONG STAY // Friday 1st July RTN Saturday 9th July SHORT STAY // Monday 4th July RTN Friday 8th July All tickets cost ?50, with the view of providing a concessionary price for unemployed/low wage/asylum seeker and those traveling from Eastern Europe. If possible, please make a donation to contribute to this concession. To book a seat on the train please download the booking form, fill it in clearly and send to BM SOUTH EAST ASSEMBLY, London, WC1N 3XX enclosed with a cheque/postal order made payable to ?G.E.N.I.? You can download the booking form here >>> Finalised times for departure and arrival are subject to network rail agreement but will be around 7am-ish from London Kings Cross, arriving Edinburgh at 1pm-ish. All tickets are return but for those wanting a one-way ticket there will be an option to sell/donate your return journey at the convergence & camp sites. If you have any spare cash then please add a donation to help a subsidised ticket being available for unemployed/low wage/asylum seekers and those travelling from Eastern Europe. Once we recieve the order for tickets we will comfirm by email/phone.Tickets will be posted out two weeks before departure. Both trains are organised by the SOUTH EAST ASSEMBLY, an anti- authoritarian co-ordination of groups & individuals based in the South East. For more info: www.resistg8.org.uk // www.dissent.org.uk Contact the transport group for any queries: trainforG8 at hushmail.com ----------------- This lists welcomes practical organising and networking information related to resiting the g8 summit in 2005. More information on the list, including how to unsubscribe, can be found at: http://lists.riseup.net/www/info/resistg82005 Political discussions relating to the Dissent! network can be engaged in at: http://www.enrager.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=67 For details of Dissent! working groups and how to get involved see: http://www.dissent.org.uk/content/view/17/28 For a copy of the People's Global Action hallmarks, our organising starting point, see: http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/free/pga/hallm.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050512/319fc1e6/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050512/6f5c1914/attachment.html From revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 9 22:49:11 2005 From: revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk (revolting) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 22:49:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] Convergence wish list in German Message-ID: <20050509214911.47313.qmail@web25710.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Here's the Convergence Centre wish list in German. French and Spanish to follow soon. I have it as a Word document too, if that's easier for putting on the website. Damit unser Convergence Ort funktionieren kann, m?ssen wir alle an ihrer Schaffung teilnehmen ? k?rperlich, geistig, und auch mit Zeugs halt. Und mit Zeit. Wenn du mit irgendwas von der folgenden Wunschliste helfen kannst, oder Leute kennst die es k?nnen, lasst uns es bitte wissen. Leute mit Zeit und Fachwissen werden auch gebraucht. Und nat?rlich Geldspenden. Schaut euch die folgenden Kategorien an und helft wenn ihr k?nnt! Wunschliste von Zeugs das gebraucht wird (Kategorien folgen):(wenn etwas durchgestrichen ist, heissts dass dies erledigt wird) Convergence Ort (email dissentconvergence (at) yahoo.co.uk)- Strom- Unterkunfts und Plenums ?rtlichkeiten- Wasserleitungen- B?rozubeh?r- Verschiedenes- Leute mit Fachwissen und ErfahrungTransport (email drivetodissent (at) go4.it)K?chen (email anarchisttpot (at) yahoo.co.uk)Kommunikation (email communicate-dissent (at) lists.riseup.net)Zeit und Fachwissen Wunschliste Convergence Ort Kontakt: dissentconvergence (at) yahoo.co.uk Strom- Kabel- Lampen/Lichter f?r draussen und drinnen (12 Volt, 24 Volt, und Stromnetz)- Umformer- Verl?ngerungskabel- Sonnenkollektor- Solarangetriebene Lampen- Batterien ? Auto und Lastwagen- Kleine Windm?hlen Unterkunfts und Plenums ?rtlichkeiten- Grosse Zelte- Zelte- Decken und Schlafs?cke Wasserleitungen- Wasserleitungen ? f?r Trinkwasser geeignet- Wasserh?hne und Installierungen- Rohrverbindungen- Wassertanks (oder ?hnliche grosse Beh?lter die hierf?r benutzt werden k?nnten)- Bowsers (auf deutsch?)- Leitungsreiniger- Abwasserleitungen- KlempnerInnen-tape- Wasserbecken- Toiletten- Klopapier B?rozubeh?r- Papier (recycled/altpapier)- Stifte- Filzstifte- Heftmaschinen und Heftklammern- Fotokopierer- Faxmaschine Verschiedenes- Schnur- Farben ? Posterfarben sowie Emulsion- Werkzeug- Starkes Klebeband- Insektenmittel- Zeugs aus denen Schilder gemacht werden k?nnen Leute mit Fachwissen und Erfahrungz.B. Elektrizit?t, klempnern, usw. Transport Kontakt: drivetodissent (at) go4.itWir werden Unmengen Transport brauchen, da der Convergence Ort sehr wahrscheinlich nicht durch ?ffentliche Verkehrsmittel erreichbar sein wird. Wir bitten alle lokale Gruppen darum, zu versuchen, Minibusse f?r diese Zeit zu mieten/sich zu besorgen, und darum dass es weitere FahrerInnen gibt die mit Transport helfen k?nnen. Weiteres was wir gebrauchen k?nnen:- FahrerInnen (KFZ, sowie BusfahrerInnen)- Busse (gross und klein)- Fahrr?der- Mitfahrgelegenheiten f?r Ausr?stung usw. K?chen Kontakt: anarchisttpot (at) yahoo.co.uk- Besteck, Teller, Sch?sseln, Becher ? sogar einfach deine eigenen mitzubringen w?rde helfen- Gas (am besten Propanflaschen)- Gasregler, um Europ?ische Gasverbindungen an Britische Gasflaschen anzuschliessen- jegliches K?chenzubeh?r das n?tzlich sein k?nnte ? T?pfe, Besteck, Tupperware usw.- jegliche (am besten vegane) Essensspenden ? S?cke von Gem?se, Getreiden, M?sli, ?l, - wenn jedes Fahrzeug das anreist irgendein Sack mit Essen mitbringen k?nnte, w?rde es sehr helfen!!!- Kontakte zu lokalen Vertrieben und AnbauerInnen von denen wir Essen billiger oder umsonst bekommen k?nnten- sehr viele Holzpalletten - Grosse Zelte f?r K?chen- selbst organiserte K?chen und Kochgruppen Kommunikation Kontakt: communicate-dissent (at) lists.riseup.net- WAP Webseiten und Designer- Mini Piratensendersysteme- Satellitentelefone- Server als Backup f?r Webseiten und Emaillisten- Farbige Fahnen!- Mobiler Internetzugang z.B. durch WAP Handys- Britische Handys und/oder Sprechzeit Zeit und Fachwissen- H?ngt Poster in Schottland und wo du wohnst auf, entwerft Poster, verteilt Flugbl?tter. Schreibt an die publicity group.- Hilft mit der Webseite. Macht ein Account auf der Webseite und dann schickt ein email an dissent-tech (at) lists.aktivix.org- Hilft mit Transport, mietet Busse- Macht bei den Arbeitsgruppen mit. Schaut die Arbeitsgruppenliste an und sucht euch eine aus!- Informationsverbreitung (tu?s einfach! Kriegt andere dazu, mitzumachen!) - Fachwissen f?r den Convergence Ort z.B. elektrisches, klempnern, Sicherheit usw. schreibt an dissentconvergence (at) yahoo.co.uk - Geldbeschaffung- Startet eine Gruppe die Teil der Dissent Mobilisierung sein kann, oder verbreitet Informationen ?ber existierende Dissent Kontaktgruppen. Schaut unsere Liste von Ortgruppen an um zu sehen, welche es schon gibt. F?gt eure Gruppe dazu ? schafft euch eine web account dann f?gt sie der Liste hinzu. --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050509/a3ab729a/attachment.html From dan at aktivix.org Thu May 12 10:07:47 2005 From: dan at aktivix.org (Dan) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:07:47 +0100 Subject: [dissent-tech] Sheffield G8 Message-ID: <42831CE3.7050303@aktivix.org> Hia, Can someone stick details on the main dissent web-site about the Sheffield G8 Justice and Home Affairs meeting from 15th to 17th June? You can get details from - http://sheffield.dissent.org.uk/ Cheers! Dan From tabitha747 at riseup.net Fri May 13 13:59:36 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 05:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] Sheffield G8 In-Reply-To: <42831CE3.7050303@aktivix.org> References: <42831CE3.7050303@aktivix.org> Message-ID: <33163.tabitha747.1115989176.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> I've put something up but *everyone* is going to have to take responsibility for putting up 'their' information. You can create an admin account by clicking no account yet? create one, which is under the login section. Once you have account details you will then be able to put up news items from 'submit news' (which can be made to go on the front page or just to their news section) or events 'submit event' (which go onto the calender). (or most likely you'd want to do both) There are not enough people to sort it all out otherwise. If you have any problems with using your account or don't get a log on account within a resonable period of time please get back in touch with us. Cheers T eso > Hia, > > Can someone stick details on the main dissent web-site about the > Sheffield G8 Justice and Home Affairs meeting from 15th to 17th June? > You can get details from - > > http://sheffield.dissent.org.uk/ > you'd > Cheers! > > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > dissent-tech mailing list > dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech > From tabitha747 at riseup.net Fri May 13 14:07:46 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 06:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] Sheffield G8 In-Reply-To: <33163.tabitha747.1115989176.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> References: <42831CE3.7050303@aktivix.org> <33163.tabitha747.1115989176.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Message-ID: <33125.tabitha747.1115989666.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Oh and if you can e-mail us to say ifyouhave submitted something so that we can publish it! > I've put something up but *everyone* is going to have to take > responsibility for putting up 'their' information. You can create an > admin account by clicking no account yet? create one, which is under the > login section. Once you have account details you will then be able to put > up news items from 'submit news' (which can be made to go on the front > page or just to their news section) or events 'submit event' (which go > onto the calender). (or most likely you'd want to do both) There are not > enough people to sort it all out otherwise. If you have any problems with > using your account or don't get a log on account within a resonable period > of time please get back in touch with us. > > Cheers T > > eso >> Hia, >> >> Can someone stick details on the main dissent web-site about the >> Sheffield G8 Justice and Home Affairs meeting from 15th to 17th June? >> You can get details from - >> >> http://sheffield.dissent.org.uk/ >> you'd >> Cheers! >> >> Dan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dissent-tech mailing list >> dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org >> http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech >> > > > _______________________________________________ > dissent-tech mailing list > dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech > From jono at damtp.cam.ac.uk Sat May 14 02:24:45 2005 From: jono at damtp.cam.ac.uk (Jonathan Oppenheim) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 02:24:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] international pages In-Reply-To: <200505091039.j49AdexU000653@springnight.burngreave.net> References: <200505091039.j49AdexU000653@springnight.burngreave.net> Message-ID: hi, i think we really really really need the webpage to have easy links to the international pages of various countries. the international part of the text that Revolting sent had to be cut out of the "get involved" section, 'cause the info is difficult/impossible to find. [perhaps someone who knows where the links are, can add it back. That would be appreciated] i think translations should be a submenu for "international page" (or whatever) which has links to all the various groups. even better would be an initial splash screen which just has a logo, and then "English, German, French, Spanish, Swahili etc." this is pretty key, and a bit late for it. more minor things, i think instead of "convergence" the menu button should be "Practical info." Since "convergence" is an activist term, which not everyone understands. I think "Action" should be action info. as well. But i think the website is slowly getting there. We really need more people helping. Can people at Notts draft a few helpers. my 2p xj From revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk Sat May 14 11:22:01 2005 From: revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk (revolting) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:22:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] Re: international pages In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050514102202.47629.qmail@web25709.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Here's the text again, with the links added. If the links are difficult/imposible to find, then I guess that makes it all the more important that we have them up on our site. ------------------ If you are based outside of the UK, there are a number of international mobilisations against the Summit working alongside Dissent!. The French mobilisation can be contacted here [http://www.dragonbleu.org/G8/], the German-language mobilisation here [http://de.dissent.org.uk/], the Irish mobilisation here [http://www.dissenteire.tk/], the Dutch mobilisation here [http://www.stopg8.be/] and the Greek mobilisation here [http://www.resistance2003.gr/]. More information about the international mobilisations, and the plan for a Global Day of Action on the opening day of the Summi (July 6) is available via the Peoples' Global Action G8 2005 site here [http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/resistg8/index.htm]. ------------------- I think it'd be great if the above text was added to the "Get Involved" text. But I also think it'd be worth adding a section called "International Mobilisations" to the Main Menu with the following text: ------------------ There are a number of international mobilisations against the 2005 G8 Summit. German-language mobilisation: http://de.dissent.org.uk/ Dutch mobilisation: http://www.stopg8.be/ French mobilisation: http://www.dragonbleu.org/G8/ Irish mobilisation: http://www.dissenteire.tk/ Greek mobilisation: http://www.resistance2003.gr/ ------------------------- If someone can give me an access code and a bit of training in Notts, I'll be able to put stuff up on the site myself, but it'd be good if this could go up before. Would be great if someone had time to do it. Cheers Jonathan Oppenheim wrote: hi, i think we really really really need the webpage to have easy links to the international pages of various countries. the international part of the text that Revolting sent had to be cut out of the "get involved" section, 'cause the info is difficult/impossible to find. [perhaps someone who knows where the links are, can add it back. That would be appreciated] i think translations should be a submenu for "international page" (or whatever) which has links to all the various groups. even better would be an initial splash screen which just has a logo, and then "English, German, French, Spanish, Swahili etc." this is pretty key, and a bit late for it. more minor things, i think instead of "convergence" the menu button should be "Practical info." Since "convergence" is an activist term, which not everyone understands. I think "Action" should be action info. as well. But i think the website is slowly getting there. We really need more people helping. Can people at Notts draft a few helpers. my 2p xj --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050513/5324e136/attachment.html From tabitha747 at riseup.net Mon May 16 11:41:50 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 03:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] Creating an account? In-Reply-To: References: <32986.tabitha747.1115990655.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Message-ID: <33822.tabitha747.1116240110.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> I just tried and it worked - it goes to a registration page - so I don't know why it didn't work for you. Can you try again? Does anyone else know why it may not have worked? love T > Hi, > > Thanks for your reply. > > Just tried to open an account ? when I clicked 'create one' I just got a > blank page. Tried several times, refreshed, etc. dunno if it's just me, or > other people had this problem... > > Bye, > Rosanne > > >>From: tabitha747 at riseup.net >>To: "Lydia Molyneaux" >>Subject: Re: Website content/Carnival for Full Enjoyment >>Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 06:24:15 -0700 (PDT) >> >>I''ll try and do this shortly but *everyone* is going to have to take >>responsibility for putting up 'their' information. You can create an >>admin account by clicking no account yet? create one, which is under the >>login section. Once you have account details you will then be able to >> put >>up news items from 'submit news' (which can be made to go on the front >>page or just to their news section e.g action info ) or events 'submit >>event' (which go >>onto the calender). (or most likely you'd want to do both) There are not >>enough people to sort it all out otherwise. If you have any problems >> with >>using your account or don't get a log on account within a resonable >> period >>of time please get back in touch with us. Please do let us know if you >>submit something though so that we can ensure that it get published. >> >>Cheers T >> >> >> > Hi there, >> > >> > Here's info about the Carnival for Full Enjoyment (formerly Working >>Group >> > Aganst Work) on 4 July to put on the dissent and wombles websites, >> also >> > about our next preparation meeting in Edinburgh. More text, graphics >> and >> > details to be available at a later date... >> > >> > Carnival for full enjoyment >> > Central Edinburgh 4 July 2005 >> > >> > *No wage slavery *No dole slavery >> > *No army slavery *No debt slavery >> > >> > Flex, temp, casual and contortionist workers, benefit claimers, >>full-time >> > wage slave >> >>s & work refusers, New Dealers, pensioners, migrants, students, >> > part-timers, dreamers, duckers & divers Bring noise, music, >> yourselves >> > and >> > friends for action against the G8 that highlights our resistance in >>work, >> > out of work and wherever we live. Assert our desires for FULL >> ENJOYMENT >> > with >> > some fun in the city ? and start to make capitalism history Watch >> this >> > space for further details. >> > >> > Contact dissentagainstwork at yahoo.co.uk if you want to get involved; >> > subscribe to our email list at >> > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/resistg8-wgaw >> > >> > PLANNING/PREPARATION meeting on: >> > SAT 4 JUNE 11am ? 5pm >> > COMMUNICATION WORKERS UNION CLUB, 15 BRUNSWICK STREET, EDINBURGH (1st >> > floor) >> > (15 minutes walk from main train and bus stations. Buses include 22, >> 4, >> > 44, >> > 5, 7, 14, 16) People are welcome to stay till Sunday for socialising >> and >> > further conspiring. For accommodation in Edinburgh ? available for >>Friday, >> > Saturday and Sunday nights ? please get in touch by emailing Carnival >>for >> > Full Enjoyment c/o edinburghclaimantsinternal at lists.riseup.net >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > From revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 16 12:25:50 2005 From: revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk (revolting) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:25:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] German and French links not working In-Reply-To: <33822.tabitha747.1116240110.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Message-ID: <20050516112550.21242.qmail@web25704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> The German and French links aren't working, somehow. tabitha747 at riseup.net wrote:I just tried and it worked - it goes to a registration page - so I don't know why it didn't work for you. Can you try again? Does anyone else know why it may not have worked? love T > Hi, > > Thanks for your reply. > > Just tried to open an account ? when I clicked 'create one' I just got a > blank page. Tried several times, refreshed, etc. dunno if it's just me, or > other people had this problem... > > Bye, > Rosanne > > >>From: tabitha747 at riseup.net >>To: "Lydia Molyneaux" >>Subject: Re: Website content/Carnival for Full Enjoyment >>Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 06:24:15 -0700 (PDT) >> >>I''ll try and do this shortly but *everyone* is going to have to take >>responsibility for putting up 'their' information. You can create an >>admin account by clicking no account yet? create one, which is under the >>login section. Once you have account details you will then be able to >> put >>up news items from 'submit news' (which can be made to go on the front >>page or just to their news section e.g action info ) or events 'submit >>event' (which go >>onto the calender). (or most likely you'd want to do both) There are not >>enough people to sort it all out otherwise. If you have any problems >> with >>using your account or don't get a log on account within a resonable >> period >>of time please get back in touch with us. Please do let us know if you >>submit something though so that we can ensure that it get published. >> >>Cheers T >> >> >> > Hi there, >> > >> > Here's info about the Carnival for Full Enjoyment (formerly Working >>Group >> > Aganst Work) on 4 July to put on the dissent and wombles websites, >> also >> > about our next preparation meeting in Edinburgh. More text, graphics >> and >> > details to be available at a later date... >> > >> > Carnival for full enjoyment >> > Central Edinburgh 4 July 2005 >> > >> > *No wage slavery *No dole slavery >> > *No army slavery *No debt slavery >> > >> > Flex, temp, casual and contortionist workers, benefit claimers, >>full-time >> > wage slave >> >>s & work refusers, New Dealers, pensioners, migrants, students, >> > part-timers, dreamers, duckers & divers Bring noise, music, >> yourselves >> > and >> > friends for action against the G8 that highlights our resistance in >>work, >> > out of work and wherever we live. Assert our desires for FULL >> ENJOYMENT >> > with >> > some fun in the city ? and start to make capitalism history Watch >> this >> > space for further details. >> > >> > Contact dissentagainstwork at yahoo.co.uk if you want to get involved; >> > subscribe to our email list at >> > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/resistg8-wgaw >> > >> > PLANNING/PREPARATION meeting on: >> > SAT 4 JUNE 11am ? 5pm >> > COMMUNICATION WORKERS UNION CLUB, 15 BRUNSWICK STREET, EDINBURGH (1st >> > floor) >> > (15 minutes walk from main train and bus stations. Buses include 22, >> 4, >> > 44, >> > 5, 7, 14, 16) People are welcome to stay till Sunday for socialising >> and >> > further conspiring. For accommodation in Edinburgh ? available for >>Friday, >> > Saturday and Sunday nights ? please get in touch by emailing Carnival >>for >> > Full Enjoyment c/o edinburghclaimantsinternal at lists.riseup.net >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ dissent-tech mailing list dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050516/350e4d80/attachment.html From tabitha747 at riseup.net Tue May 17 12:30:23 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 04:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] RE: Creating an account? In-Reply-To: References: <33822.tabitha747.1116240110.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Message-ID: <56249.tabitha747.1116329423.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Possibly - to be honest I have no idea I'm not a techie - but i'm forwarding this to the tech list love T > Hi, > > I've tried again! Also tried again in Netscape, with worse results. > > I could ask around ? will some people tonight. Could it be that the > dissent > site could be Mac-unfriendly in any way? > > Bye, > Rosanne > > >>From: tabitha747 at riseup.net >>To: "Lydia Molyneaux" >>CC: dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org >>Subject: Creating an account? >>Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 03:41:50 -0700 (PDT) >> >>I just tried and it worked - it goes to a registration page - so I don't >>know why it didn't work for you. Can you try again? Does anyone else >>know why it may not have worked? >> >>love T >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > Thanks for your reply. >> > >> > Just tried to open an account ? when I clicked 'create one' I just got >> a >> > blank page. Tried several times, refreshed, etc. dunno if it's just >> me, >>or >> > other people had this problem... >> > >> > Bye, >> > Rosanne >> > >> > >> >>From: tabitha747 at riseup.net >> >>To: "Lydia Molyneaux" >> >>Subject: Re: Website content/Carnival for Full Enjoyment >> >>Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 06:24:15 -0700 (PDT) >> >> >> >>I''ll try and do this shortly but *everyone* is going to have to take >> >>responsibility for putting up 'their' information. You can create an >> >>admin account by clicking no account yet? create one, which is under >> the >> >>login section. Once you have account details you will then be able to >> >> put >> >>up news items from 'submit news' (which can be made to go on the front >> >>page or just to their news section e.g action info ) or events 'submit >> >>event' (which go >> >>onto the calender). (or most likely you'd want to do both) There are >>not >> >>enough people to sort it all out otherwise. If you have any problems >> >> with >> >>using your account or don't get a log on account within a resonable >> >> period >> >>of time please get back in touch with us. Please do let us know if >> you >> >>submit something though so that we can ensure that it get published. >> >> >> >>Cheers T >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi there, >> >> > >> >> > Here's info about the Carnival for Full Enjoyment (formerly Working >> >>Group >> >> > Aganst Work) on 4 July to put on the dissent and wombles websites, >> >> also >> >> > about our next preparation meeting in Edinburgh. More text, >> graphics >> >> and >> >> > details to be available at a later date... >> >> > >> >> > Carnival for full enjoyment >> >> > Central Edinburgh 4 July 2005 >> >> > >> >> > *No wage slavery *No dole slavery >> >> > *No army slavery *No debt slavery >> >> > >> >> > Flex, temp, casual and contortionist workers, benefit claimers, >> >>full-time >> >> > wage slave >> >> >> >>s & work refusers, New Dealers, pensioners, migrants, students, >> >> > part-timers, dreamers, duckers & divers Bring noise, music, >> >> yourselves >> >> > and >> >> > friends for action against the G8 that highlights our resistance in >> >>work, >> >> > out of work and wherever we live. Assert our desires for FULL >> >> ENJOYMENT >> >> > with >> >> > some fun in the city ? and start to make capitalism history Watch >> >> this >> >> > space for further details. >> >> > >> >> > Contact dissentagainstwork at yahoo.co.uk if you want to get involved; >> >> > subscribe to our email list at >> >> > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/resistg8-wgaw >> >> > >> >> > PLANNING/PREPARATION meeting on: >> >> > SAT 4 JUNE 11am ? 5pm >> >> > COMMUNICATION WORKERS UNION CLUB, 15 BRUNSWICK STREET, EDINBURGH >> (1st >> >> > floor) >> >> > (15 minutes walk from main train and bus stations. Buses include >> 22, >> >> 4, >> >> > 44, >> >> > 5, 7, 14, 16) People are welcome to stay till Sunday for >> socialising >> >> and >> >> > further conspiring. For accommodation in Edinburgh ? available for >> >>Friday, >> >> > Saturday and Sunday nights ? please get in touch by emailing >> Carnival >> >>for >> >> > Full Enjoyment c/o edinburghclaimantsinternal at lists.riseup.net >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > From revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk Tue May 17 21:20:46 2005 From: revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk (revolting) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:20:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] web updates... Message-ID: <20050517202046.37664.qmail@web25701.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Nice one to whoever has made the website much, much more usable! Great job!!!!!! The "Action Info" section is especially cool! The only things I'd suggest adding would be a link to the page with the Peoples Global Action call and the WSF Caracol call. It also has info about the global mobilisation (or will have at somepoint). The link, which I'd suggest comes at the end of the section on the "Global Day of Action 6th July", is http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/resistg8/index.htm Also (still in the "Action Info" section), it might be worth adding this link to a whole bunch of maps of the area: http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/resistg8/index.htm --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050517/84a1de4b/attachment.html From revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 18 12:54:01 2005 From: revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk (revolting) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:54:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] draft agenda still not on website Message-ID: <20050518115401.95949.qmail@web25708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Can anyone with the know how stick the Notts draft agenda on the website. Cheers --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050518/c4db422a/attachment.html From anarkokaviat at yahoo.co.uk Thu May 19 14:46:21 2005 From: anarkokaviat at yahoo.co.uk (koyote) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 14:46:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] website for cre8 summit? Message-ID: <20050519134621.57791.qmail@web53102.mail.yahoo.com> hiya, as preparation for cre8 summit goes on, we're finding the need for a website linked off dissent.org (possibly under Action Info menu item?) where we can post info on workshops, news, filmreels, etc., and also stencil onto the tshirts we're distroing to fundraise. can you give us a link under Action Info/somewhere findable off dissent.org? or should we just add info to the link under Sections? and if we want to do this, can we edit that page as changes occur ourselves? (this is http://www.dissent.org.uk/content/blogsection/20/ ) cheers, koyote ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From tabitha747 at riseup.net Wed May 25 11:52:09 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 03:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] Could someone with the know how please respond to this! Message-ID: <59527.tabitha747.1117018329.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: Re: [dissent-tech] swedish sub-site From: "Pheet" Date: Mon, May 9, 2005 8:10 am To: tabitha747 at riseup.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hej, In a word, no. :-) It's not the first time either... Offer still stands, but it's getting a bit late in the day so to speak. How's things? Have it good, Pheet > From:: tabitha747 at riseup.net > To: "Pheet" > Subject: Re: [dissent-tech] swedish sub-site > Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 04:14:46 -0700 (PDT) > Did anyone get back to you about this? > > > Hej, > > > > Is it possible to have a swedish subsite se.dissent.org.uk ? I'd be happy to admin it. > > > > The germans have de.dissent.org.uk, so it's only fair ;-) > > > > Ive got some new swedish prop to upload (oh, I still haven't got admin permissions BTW u/n: pheet) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Pheet > > > > Chronicles of Riddick DVD/VHS 3rd January > > http://www.lycos.co.uk/entertainment/riddick/> _______________________________________________ > > dissent-tech mailing list > > dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org > > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech> Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk From tabitha747 at riseup.net Wed May 25 13:21:03 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 05:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] Front page Message-ID: <60939.tabitha747.1117023663.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> No matter what i do i can't sort the order on the front page - any ideas on what to do - i' have tried changing the ordering etc to no avail From tim_boetie at fastmail.fm Wed May 25 21:07:11 2005 From: tim_boetie at fastmail.fm (Etienne) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:07:11 +0100 Subject: [dissent-tech] Hello and admin logon Message-ID: <1117051631.9094.10.camel@october.revolution.example> Hi all, I'm Tim from Cambridge; I'd be interested in helping out with website stuff. In particular, I notice there's nothing up about the Anarchist Ball we're holding here as a Dissent fundraiser - I've submitted an event, and I'll approve it so it goes up if someone gives my account (username: etienne) the appropriate access rights; and of course I'd be happy to play a role in moderating future submissions. I also now a bit about server-side scripting, PHP and that sort of thing, so might be able to do other tech things too if that would be useful. -- "Hence the impotent omnivalence of whatever being. It is neither apathy nor promiscuity nor resignation." -- Giorgio Agamben Tim http://huh.34sp.com/ From jono at damtp.cam.ac.uk Thu May 26 15:52:44 2005 From: jono at damtp.cam.ac.uk (Jonathan Oppenheim) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:52:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] sweden website (Dissent) In-Reply-To: <200505251100.j4PB0An4028916@springnight.burngreave.net> References: <200505251100.j4PB0An4028916@springnight.burngreave.net> Message-ID: Hi, If you create a website, the web nerds here can create a subdomain se.dissent.org.uk or whatever, and have this point to your content. This was what was done with germany, as far as i know. If you need an actual webserver, I would suggest emailing the main elist and asking someone to let you use theirs. In the meantime, you can always create content on the main dissent site, and submit it as news (use the "submit news") feature. Then email the dissent-tech list, and they can link it to the international pages, so that people will see it when they click on international sites. You first need to create an account. Hope that helps, j From alibaba at dalitstan.org Tue May 24 18:23:56 2005 From: alibaba at dalitstan.org (Ali Baba) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] G8Motors Message-ID: <20050524172356.ED2163984@sitemail.everyone.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050524/35db88bf/attachment.html From brumg8dissent at riseup.net Fri May 27 15:54:28 2005 From: brumg8dissent at riseup.net (brumg8dissent at riseup.net) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] brum group Message-ID: <46324.brumg8dissent.1117205668.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Can you add this email address to the dissent website as a contact for the Birmingham Dissent/cre8 group. We haven't really got a name, as we are avoiding using 'dissent' as a name, and we're using the 'cre8' meme as a label, but want to avoid being confused with the Glasgow Cre8 group. So, at your discretion. But please putt the contact on the list, thanks. We meet every Tuesday at 7pm in Birmingham - get in touch for details. Ta. From guardianangel at webtribe.net Wed May 25 22:58:28 2005 From: guardianangel at webtribe.net (Max) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:58:28 +0100 Subject: [dissent-tech] Link to legal website Message-ID: Hi I am writing on behalf of the G8 Legal Support Group which has expressed concern that it is quite hard to find the link to the legal group's website on the dissent website unless one is quite familiar with the website layout. Thus, we are asking if we can have a more prominent link as we think that in the run-up to the G8 the legal stuff is going to be very important and it is vital that people can find it easily. Thanks Max From ilovedisaster at riseup.net Thu May 26 18:42:54 2005 From: ilovedisaster at riseup.net (ilovedisaster at riseup.net) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] update info please Message-ID: <56146.ilovedisaster.1117129374.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Hi, I would like you to update a critical information info about the g8bikeride: We leave brighton on the 17th of june, (NOT on the 18th). We then meet everyone in london from where we leave on the 19th... We arrive at lanark (talahm life center) on the 30th and from there we decide where we go and what we do... so the info "Bike Caravan arrives" might be untrue... I found theses mistakes on the timeline: http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/resistg8/timeline.htm. please send an email asking for confirmation to g8bikeride at lists.riseup.net if you don't trust me... ride and rage, lstd From slowcode at riseup.net Tue May 24 03:50:18 2005 From: slowcode at riseup.net (slowcode) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 03:50:18 +0100 Subject: [dissent-tech] picures in dissent web Message-ID: hi there, we've been trying to find a way to add a picture to an article in the dissent web, but failed to figure out how to do this... any chance of an explanation or a link to an explanation? have all the pics have to be uploaded to the galleries? can they be hidden from the galleries? can we use .swf files? uh? thanks for your time.. sc From sarah at sjgalloway.fsnet.co.uk Thu May 26 23:23:28 2005 From: sarah at sjgalloway.fsnet.co.uk (sarah galloway) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:23:28 +0100 Subject: [dissent-tech] images for you Message-ID: <006601c56241$9604f230$7178893e@sarahlaptop> Here are some images from Stirling to add to your web gallery or random images (if you want them) Sarah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best wishes Geoff _________________________________________________________________ Winks & nudges are here - download MSN Messenger 7.0 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk From revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 30 12:17:41 2005 From: revolting2005 at yahoo.co.uk (revolting) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 12:17:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: [dissent-tech] website homepage Message-ID: <20050530111741.94044.qmail@web25706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I think the website is looking much better and much more usable. One thought, I'm unsure about the function of the links on the front page. The ones which read: "Great Britain - Deutsch - Francais - Greek - Belgium - Ireland". Some of these are the names of countries, and some are the names of the/a langauge spoken in different countries. I'd say that it should either read: "Great Britain - Deutschland - France - Greece - Belgium - Ireland" and then link to the mobilisations from those areas. Or, better, I think, It should say something like: "Mobilisations against the 2005 G8 Summit are being organised by people based in the following places: Great Britain - German-speaking parts of Europe - France - Greece - Belgium - Ireland" Or since it seems a bit odd to have a link to the mobilisation in Great Britain from the Dissent! site (the link just links back to the same page). The following might be better: "Mobilisations against the 2005 G8 Summit are also being organised by people based in the following places: German-speaking parts of Europe - France - Greece - Belgium - Ireland" If people think that makes sense, it'd be great if someone could change it. Cheers! --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050530/0c73bc0d/attachment.html From lists at j12.org Mon May 30 13:48:15 2005 From: lists at j12.org (Space Bunny) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 13:48:15 +0100 Subject: [dissent-tech] website homepage In-Reply-To: <20050530111741.94044.qmail@web25706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050530111741.94044.qmail@web25706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <429B0B8F.1020408@j12.org> revolting wrote: > I think the website is looking much better and much more usable. One > thought, I'm unsure about the function of the links on the front page. > [...] > > "Mobilisations against the 2005 G8 Summit are also being organised by > people based in the following places: German-speaking parts of Europe > - France - Greece - Belgium - Ireland" 'parts of Europe' is superfluous. I removed the GB as indeed no need, but left as is so far for some one else to work out. But main thing is as soon as I saw those lines From July 6-8th, violent extremists will be converging on Scotland... They'll be trying to meet at the Gleneagles hotel, and we'll be trying to stop them. I did not like them. It is too much of a response to the agenda set by the media. Also I don't think such jokes work well on the Internet. Also some one has modify that article to add a new announcement it is probably best to do that a new article but I reckon that was put there but someone new to the admin interface: http://www.dissent.org.uk/administrator/index2.php It seems a new article happened as I wrote this. Also I have put up on wiki page: http://www.ourmayday.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?G8_Scotland_Summary and started to modify the text put together for the international meeting. I think it needs more work, so feel feel to modify as you see fit. It has been suggested to use this as basis for some static web pages, that have been suggested at many a meeting but never done. btw if you still use it as a web browser do ditch MicroSoft Internet Explorer and instead use some thing like Firefox see: http://mozilla.org Keep up good work all those who are collecting stuff and adding it to the site, to keep it up todate. I have made some changes requested on this list but not all and we are a behind with responding to requests. At further meetings is is a good idea to actively recruit more people to do this, and get them to realise how straight forward it is. Despite every time anything to do with website is brought up at meeting many role their eyes and want to move one, I wonder is these are same people who later complain about the website. Perhaps plug where appropriate in messages to lists promote: http://dissent.org.uk/index.php?option=com_registration&task=register and then ask people for user name at meeting so can up to editor status so they can add stuff straight away rather than via moderation, as it is often a while before any one checks if stuff to approve. I have also been moderation this list on my own, after person who set it up let it go and hence delays in mail getting through if anyone wants to help then let me know. Also for a while I was updating with press article links: http://del.icio.us/Dissent but have lapsed. And no longer sure if worth time. If anyone wants the password to continue doing that let me know. I think it makes it easier to see what a specific journalist has written but there a again a web search and a little extra time may be just as good. There is a much cruder list at: http://www.ourmayday.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?G8_News_Clippings But AnRo is making a good job of keeping up with copies at: http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/resistg8/media/ which helps people who avoid adverts or don't want to sign up on sites. Of course there is: http://news.google.co.uk/news?hl=en&ned=uk&q=g8&btnG=Search+News But be aware of google's poor regard to privacy: http://www.google-watch.org/ http://www.scroogle.org/ -- -- http://j12.org/sb/ From tabitha747 at riseup.net Mon May 30 14:52:51 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 06:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] Guide to using the web In-Reply-To: <006601c56241$9604f230$7178893e@sarahlaptop> References: <006601c56241$9604f230$7178893e@sarahlaptop> Message-ID: <34517.tabitha747.1117461171.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> I have put this up on the web - its under web admin in the get involved bit. I hope you all approve. Please send any amendmants/suggestions in. Also i'm going to use it as a basis for a standard reply to requests to upload info cos it something everyone needs to get into doing (loads of people have accounts!). love T Brief Guide to Using the Dissent! Website This website is open publishing. Many people find the website busy and a bit overwhelming but if you take some time to familiarise yourself with it it should eventually begin to make sense! If you wish to upload information you need to create an account. Do this by clicking on the 'No account yet? Create one' link on the left hand side bar. Once you have been issued with a user name and password you can log in to the site. When you are logged on the user menu appears above the 'log in' module. From here the main options are 'submit news' and 'submit event'. To 'submit news' Once you have clicked on this option you will be taken to an add content page. Please add your content ensuring that all articles have a very concise introduction and the main body of text/images are put in the 'main text' section. You will need to select a category: Events/Gatherings ? This is for events related to Dissent not covered by the other options, e.g. information nights and benefit gigs and for info on network wide gatherings. Translation ? This is for any translated information. If the translation is of an article or section that is already on the website please follow these instructions so that a link can be made from the article in English to the translated article. In the title box give the title of the article in the translation language but with the name of that language in brackets in English. Please include at the end of the article the title of the article in English with the translation language name in its translated form in brackets. Please e-mail the web team so they know there is a new article to link. Action Info ? This is for any action related information, from practical/tactical to events. Support Group Info ? This is for news on or any new information from support groups (e.g.. publications, trainings, education, medical and legal). Convergence Info- This is for any practical information that relates to the convergence spaces or visiting Scotland Resources Info - This is for news on any useful information resources e.g. publications Newsletter ? This is for any articles or reports that do not fit into the above sections or would not be classified as news. Please then go to the publishing tag at the bottom of the page. You should at least change the 'state' option from unpublished to published. The title of all new articles will appear on the 'Recent Info' module on the right hand sidebar. If your article is of high importance and you want it to go on the front page instead please click 'front page' box on this page. Please note there are currently technical problems with the front page. Once you have finished remember to click the save icon! To 'Submit Event' This will add details to the events calender, which is currently placed on the right hand sidebar. This section is fairly self explanatory, please follow the online instructions. Other sections you may find useful: Document Downloads This section allows you to upload files for others to download. To add (or access) a document go the main menu > resources > document downloads. You do ot need to be logged in if you want to download a document/file. If you are logged in a 'submit a new document' icon will appear at the right hand side of the document download page. Please follow the instructions on this page. Please take some time to look at the categories: Working Group Meeting Minutes: This is for meeting that happen outside of network wide gatherings. Publicity: with the following subcategories Flyers Information about the G8 Logos and Artwork Poster Press Releases Past Mobilisation Gathering Documents: with the following subcategories Agendas Discussion Documents/Proposals Introduction Packs Invites Minutes Newsletters Action Information- You can upload calls to action directly onto the calls to action pages. Go to the main menu > Action Info. At the bottom of this page are links to the call to action pages. If you click on one of these pages (either build up or g8 Summit) and are logged in you can click on the 'new...' which will appear near the bottom of the page. Follow the online instructions (this page has the same format as the news add content page). Please ignore the category Derby M17. From tabitha747 at riseup.net Mon May 30 15:11:14 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 07:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] Link to wishlist not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34212.tabitha747.1117462274.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Ta, its sorted now > Hi, thought you ought to know that the hyperlink "our wishlist of > materials > and skills" on > > http://www.dissent.org.uk/content/view/177/96/ > > merely brings up that same page. > > Best wishes > Geoff > > _________________________________________________________________ > Winks & nudges are here - download MSN Messenger 7.0 today! > http://messenger.msn.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > dissent-tech mailing list > dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech > From tabitha747 at riseup.net Mon May 30 15:12:37 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 07:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] images for you In-Reply-To: <006601c56241$9604f230$7178893e@sarahlaptop> References: <006601c56241$9604f230$7178893e@sarahlaptop> Message-ID: <34154.tabitha747.1117462357.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> I don't know how to do this - can someone else - or tell me how. Is the ako gallery working at all? > Here are some images from Stirling to add to your web gallery or random > images (if you want them) > > Sarah > > _______________________________________________ > dissent-tech mailing list > dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech > From tabitha747 at riseup.net Mon May 30 15:13:36 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 07:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] picures in dissent web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34124.tabitha747.1117462416.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Again - I can't help on this (and would also be interested in learning more!_ > hi there, we've been trying to find a way to add a picture to an > article in the dissent web, but failed to figure out how to do > this... any chance of an explanation or a link to an explanation? > have all the pics have to be uploaded to the galleries? can they be > hidden from the galleries? can we use .swf files? uh? > > thanks for your time.. > > sc > _______________________________________________ > dissent-tech mailing list > dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech > From tabitha747 at riseup.net Mon May 30 15:53:41 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 07:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] Link to legal website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34879.tabitha747.1117464821.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Given the way the site is organised i don't we can prioritise any particular aspect of the mobilisation - (although of course maybe we could have a front page feature/link around the main action - although this will depend on what the demand is for other things being there, and at the moment we have problems with the front page anyway). I have begun to do a site map though to help with people's naigation problems - anyone out there want to help? I hope this is o.k love T > Hi > > I am writing on behalf of the G8 Legal Support Group which has > expressed concern that it is quite hard to find the link to the legal > group's website on the dissent website unless one is quite familiar > with the website layout. Thus, we are asking if we can have a more > prominent link as we think that in the run-up to the G8 the legal > stuff is going to be very important and it is vital that people can > find it easily. > > Thanks > Max > _______________________________________________ > dissent-tech mailing list > dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech > From tabitha747 at riseup.net Mon May 30 15:59:29 2005 From: tabitha747 at riseup.net (tabitha747 at riseup.net) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 07:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [dissent-tech] G8Motors In-Reply-To: <20050524172356.ED2163984@sitemail.everyone.net> References: <20050524172356.ED2163984@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <34819.tabitha747.1117465169.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Erm, you guys seem to be trying to do the same thing. Driven to dissent - the contact for the transport working group (as i understood it) has been around for a while now - I'm sure as much focus as possible is needed on this area but do you want to talk and get back to us about how you want things up on the website. Please also look at the working group web page: http://www.dissent.org.uk/content/view/183/102/ All the best >

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> _______________________________________________ > dissent-tech mailing list > dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech > From sara_b37 at hotmail.com Mon May 30 19:40:11 2005 From: sara_b37 at hotmail.com (sara b) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 18:40:11 +0000 Subject: [dissent-tech] link to blockades site Message-ID: Hi, would someone be able to put a link to the new blockades website which is www.g8blockades.org.uk on the action information page, and also maybe the callout which is on the front of the blockades website. I know everything is kind of being given equal space, but would it be possible to flag up the blockades a little bit more, just because it's on the first day of the summit & hasn't been publicised very much yet. I'm attaching an gif file of the blockades banner. cheers. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: blockades_banner.gif Type: image/gif Size: 7613 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/dissent-tech/attachments/20050530/dac716dd/attachment.gif From sara_b37 at hotmail.com Mon May 30 20:11:40 2005 From: sara_b37 at hotmail.com (sara b) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:11:40 +0000 Subject: [dissent-tech] link to blockades site In-Reply-To: <20050530190435.67940.qmail@web25704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: the banner's on http://www.g8blockades.org.uk/resources.htm >From: revolting >To: sara b >Subject: Re: [dissent-tech] link to blockades site >Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 20:04:35 +0100 (BST) > >Is the .gif file downloadable from any website? Have you got a link to it? >If so, we can send an email out to various lists asking people to link to >the blockades site (with the banner). Some lists (e.g. a-infos) don't allow >you to post attachments. > >sara b wrote:Hi, > >would someone be able to put a link to the new blockades website which is >www.g8blockades.org.uk on the action information page, and also maybe the >callout which is on the front of the blockades website. I know everything >is kind of being given equal space, but would it be possible to flag up the >blockades a little bit more, just because it's on the first day of the >summit & hasn't been publicised very much yet. I'm attaching an gif file of >the blockades banner. > >cheers. > >_______________________________________________ >dissent-tech mailing list >dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org >http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech > > > >--------------------------------- >Too much spam in your inbox? Yahoo! Mail gives you the best spam protection >for FREE! Get Yahoo! Mail From hjdsmdr at mixmail.com Tue May 31 00:35:53 2005 From: hjdsmdr at mixmail.com (adriana) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 00:35:53 +0100 Subject: [dissent-tech] Link to legal website In-Reply-To: <34879.tabitha747.1117464821.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> References: <34879.tabitha747.1117464821.squirrel@mail.riseup.net> Message-ID: <429BA359.8010205@mixmail.com> > I have begun to do a > site map though to help with people's naigation problems - anyone out > there want to help? I hope this is o.k Perhaps we could help with some little instruction adriana (Sheffield dissent http://sheffield.dissent.org.uk/ tabitha747 at riseup.net wrote: > Given the way the site is organised i don't we can prioritise any > particular aspect of the mobilisation - (although of course maybe we could > have a front page feature/link around the main action - although this will > depend on what the demand is for other things being there, and at the > moment we have problems with the front page anyway). I have begun to do a > site map though to help with people's naigation problems - anyone out > there want to help? I hope this is o.k > > love T > > >>Hi >> >>I am writing on behalf of the G8 Legal Support Group which has >>expressed concern that it is quite hard to find the link to the legal >>group's website on the dissent website unless one is quite familiar >>with the website layout. Thus, we are asking if we can have a more >>prominent link as we think that in the run-up to the G8 the legal >>stuff is going to be very important and it is vital that people can >>find it easily. >> >>Thanks >>Max >>_______________________________________________ >>dissent-tech mailing list >>dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org >>http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > dissent-tech mailing list > dissent-tech at lists.aktivix.org > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/dissent-tech > > From sb at j12.org Tue May 31 20:21:06 2005 From: sb at j12.org (Space Bunny) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 20:21:06 +0100 Subject: [dissent-tech] new splash page for dissent site on cards Message-ID: <429CB922.9010508@j12.org> tc has done a splash page for front of Dissent site to be first thing people see when they go to dissent.org.uk It has been put up at the unused: http://international.dissent.org.uk/ to check out. If no one objects it may be put up on actual to site, in front of the CMS to help first time visitors navigate site, taking into account any modifications requested (such as what linked to) but note it can not be updated collectively like stuff in the main site under the CMS *; only via me and others with filesystem access, but that is not too impossible and is how non CMS sites go anyway often bottlenecking through one person. Also it may interfere with POST function the CMS uses, but I think I have way round this, need to check out when put up. http://dissent.org.uk * by all those who have let us know usernames to get access, though to get access change main structure of site need to engage with the rest of web group, also I note some people who have had access status upped have never tried it it out. If one needs help do try asking. -- -- http://j12.org/sb/