[dissent-tech] web changes

Mon May 9 12:09:50 BST 2005

I agree with Mr. Revolting, on all points, the wishlist is just where 
it is due to running out of time.  And sending texts is helpful,
as long as there is someone willing to upload them and add in links.
This i think is a real killer, as there are too few people doing this,
and mostly people already doing too many things.

The "Get involved" text that revolting suggested could also include
some stuff about the elist and announce list.
I am pretty well out of commission this week, so sorry to also
be on the unhelpful side...

I would just add that what would improve the site a lot is if
the first item at the top of the news section was something funky, and 
graphic, with links to the international sites so that people looking for
the .de or .fr could get there quickly.  It could even include some
of the "get involved text".  The admins would then have to make sure
that it was always the top item of approved news, which might be a pain.

it seems the problem with this happening is just that everyone keeps
saying this, but no one does it.  Yet both the S.E. forum and tenpounds
have funky sites, so we do have the skills within.

Both the resources section and the intro to g8 section also need some
more text and work.  I think it would be good to have a brief g8 faq which
dispels a lot of the PR fluff that blair is putting out.  I think this
needs to be the very first point we address.

Finally, the media section needs some work, eg. links to groups which
can comment on specific issues (eg rising tide), etc. and links to
a nice g8 faq.  There is some text for this floating around, and i
can send it to anyone who has some time to put it up.

sorry to also be unhelpful, and feel free to tell me to jump.

xoj

On Mon, 9 May 2005, revolting wrote:

> I think the changes are really helpful. I've got a few other suggestions about how to make the site a bit easier to use and a little easier to navigate. Seeing as I *still* haven't gotton around to getting an access code or trained up on how to become an administrator (I did kind of try, actually, but time ran out with having to do other, more pressing things at the gathering) I'm not sure if my comments are being taken as useful comments or as an obnoxious "you lot should be doing it like this." I hope its the former rather than the latter. Please feel free to let me know if suggestions such as these are unhelpful.
>  
> 1) I think the look of the homepage would be greatly imporved if the distinction between articles was made clearer (perhaps each one being in its own little box) and if the article followed a standard format in terms of look. For example, the headline could all be in 12 point Ariel Bold, the name of the author and date of posting in 8 point Ariel, and the body of the article in 10 point Tahoma (just a random example, by the way). The site might look a bit less "messy" then. I really think the IMC UK site is a good model here. Lots of articles, lots of info, but the subsections and various stories are clearly defined from one another.
>  2) I'm confussed as to why the info under "Get Involved" is not under
> the "Convergence Info" sub-section. I'd say that the "Get Involved"
> section should read something like this:
>  "The 2005 G8 Summit is rapidly approaching. Preparations are well
> underway, but there is still an enormous amount left to do. Now is the
> time to get involved! Dissent! is a network of autonomous local groups,
> based in towns and cities across the UK and further afield. The best way
> to get involved is to contact your local group. A list of Dissent!
> Network affiliated local groups can be found here [INSERT LINK]. If you
> are based in Ireland [INSERT LINK TO IRISH DISSENT! NETWORK],
> German-speaking parts of Europe [INSERT LINK TO GERMAN LANGUAGE SITE
> HERE], the Netherlands [INSERT DUTCH MOBILISATION SITE HERE], France
> [INSERT LINK TO FRENCH MOBILISATION HERE], or Greece [INSERT LINK TO
> GREEK ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN MOVEMENT SPECIAL G8 SITE HERE], contact your
> local mobilisation and find out how to get involved.
>  Dissent! also consists of a number of Working Groups focussing on
> different aspects of the mobilisation - from action planning to
> practical logisitics. Get involved with the particular aspect of the
> mobilisation which most interests you, or that you think you have the
> most to offer. A list of Working Groups is available here [INSERT LINK
> TO WORKING GROUP LIST HERE].
>  In particular, help is needed with the Convergence Centre (more info
> here: [INSERT LINK TO THE CONVERGENCE INFO SECTION HERE]) and
> fundraising. A list of tips on how to fundraise, and methods of paying
> money into the Dissent! bank account are available here [INSERT LINK TO
> FUNDING SECTION].
>  The Convergence Centre will be an open space to come along, meet others
> and plan action! Come along as early as possible, bring your own ideas
> and any resources you think might be useful and get involved!"
>  All the info currently in the "Get Involved" section could then be put
> in the "Convergence Info" section under the information that is already
> there.
>  
> 3) Just to make it a little clearer, in the "Contact Us" section, it'd maybe be good to change the bit saying "International Networking: info-g82005 at riseup.net" so it just says "If you are based outside of the UK, for more information contact: info-g82005 at riseup.net" just 'cos international networking is a little ambiguous.
>  
> 4) In the "Sections" section, can there be a link to the Days of Dissent: Reflections on Summit Mobilisations magazine. Perhaps the whole title of the magazine could go in there, or just Reflections on Summit Mobilisations, if there's not room. The domain is: www.daysofdissent.org.uk
>  
> 5) I think the "look" of the site would be much improved by making the banner at the top a bit more funky. The little graphic in the top right hand corner is a little odd and the font could be a bit more exciting. I'll see if I can find a nicer font and a picture to suggest as the banner. Or we could all ask around amongst any designers to see if anyone's up for sorting out a nice banner.
>  
> That's all. Again, hope its more useful than annoying having someone without access posting to this list.
>  
> See you all in Notts!
> 
> Jonathan Oppenheim <J.Oppenheim at damtp.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> A fair bit has now changed on the website, including a
> convergence info section, wishlistt additions, contact us page, etc.
> And more sectioning, e.g. "Get Involved" has many of the
> resources for members of the network, including the 
> "Adminstrator" link, and "Resources, is to be a starting
> point for our resources (right now, mostly just document downloads),
> but should include g8 resources.
> 
> It is just a start, and hopefully people can start to link up some
> of the sections that were taken down.
> 
> I find the static pages for sections more easy on the eye than the
> news sections which often become a mess. Hopefully nothing has been
> fucked up, so please let me know if things should be changed.
> 
> xj
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