[Educationforall] EDUCATION and the EFA proposed agenda for fridays meeting 12:00pm R-115

Fri Feb 19 19:27:56 UTC 2010

wow... this bickering is giving me a headache... in response to all these emails, i think it is very silly and unnecessary.  i think that this whole "movie" situation has been blown out of proportion.  as much as i am passionate about the cause and want to do as much as i can to help, all this arguing and clashing between us has made me second guess putting so much effort into this event.  i think that the unity and solidarity has been lost and it makes me very sad to see that we can not get things done without arguing.  we are all in EFA for the same issue and at the end of the day, we will stand untied for the same issue. 

connie maria gonzalez 

--- On Fri, 2/19/10, JRod Rod <jrodwolverine at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: JRod Rod <jrodwolverine at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Educationforall] EDUCATION and the EFA proposed agenda for fridays meeting 12:00pm R-115
To: "Marcos" <marcosresiste at hotmail.com>, educationforall at lists.aktivix.org
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 10:19 AM

Nobody is questioning the importance of the film or the purpose of it. What I'm saying is that most EFA members don't need further motivation to get involved; we already are. I believe it's safe to assume that about EFA members. 

The outreach is great, I wish the rest of the individuals would have been notified about the Chicano film showing before it was announced in classrooms. 
How about we get there at 12 and decide what to do then because we're obviously not going to come to a concensus over e-mails...

Jose Rodriguez 

From: marcosresiste at hotmail.com
To: educationforall at lists.aktivix.org
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:21:03 -0700
Subject: Re: [Educationforall] EDUCATION and the EFA proposed agenda	for fridays meeting 12:00pm R-115

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I would hesitate to speak for all or most EFA participants on whether they would or would not want to watch a portion of the Chicano Walkout movie as an educational portion of the EFA meeting as Kurt has suggested. 

Just so everybody knows, a few of us have done extensive outreach to City College students and have invited them to participate at the EFA meeting on the grounds of the movie showing and specific 3/4 organizing. Prior to the movie showing we have had educational portions in the form of articles being sent out, those who take the movement serious and the self-education serious are the ones who have participated in these discussions and have read the information that was sent out over the list.

The movie showing is a way to generate excitement for new students to come and participate, learn about past movements and apply some lessons to the movement today.
I think many are missing the overall big picture here. And that is that we are striving to GROW this movement, in particular here at City. This has been a big part of EFA's focus since its start. If we don't take it upon ourselves to grow the local movement and educate ourselves and those around us than this movement is headed towards a dead end.
This is essentially why EFA Coordinating Committee has decided to move forward with the movie showing in the beginning of the meeting. It is a strategic reason as well as educational.

The other reason why the movie showing should be viewed in the begging is for political reasons. It will not make sense to plan and organize a walkout/teach out/rally/march and than watch a documentary about the Chicano walkouts/teach outs/rally's/marches after we have already planned out the details. It will absolutely make sense to watch the movie first in order to raise the consciousness of us all and in particular of those students gravitating towards activism and EFA and in the context of having that historical movement fresh in our minds go into planning our events for 3/4. Its about Bringing Education and Activism Together literally. It will absolutely be beneficial to watch the documentary first and than go into the specific planning of what we envision 3/4 should look like.

In Solidarity,

Marcos

From: jrodwolverine at hotmail.com
To: justinakers at cox.net; educationforall at lists.aktivix.org
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:20:02 -0800
Subject: Re: [Educationforall] EDUCATION and the EFA proposed agenda for fridaysmeeting 12:00pm R-115

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Hi everybody, 
As much as I am a Chicano and want to further understand the issues of the 60's and 70's and the Chicano movement...it's crunch time. 
I (and most EFA participants) don't need further motivation to attend and plan the March 4th event. The truth is that the event is only two weeks away and as we've noticed in any meeting; it takes much time and discussion to come up with resolutions. 
The video showing is a good idea, maybe at the end of the meeting for whoever can stay.

Jose Rodriguez 

> From: justinakers at cox.net
> To: educationforall at lists.aktivix.org
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:14:48 -0800
> Subject: [Educationforall] EDUCATION and the EFA proposed agenda for fridaysmeeting 12:00pm R-115
> 
> 
> Companeras/os,
> 
> On a practicaly note, people who don't want to watch the film on the Chicano 
> Walk-outs should show up at 1230 instead of 12:00. This way those of us who 
> have busy schedules can get there jsut for the 'business part,' and at the 
> same time respect the right of others who do want to see the film.
> 
> Educational introductions at EFA meetings were democratically agreed upon in 
> the early formation of the groups and seen as a crucial EDUCATIONAL aspect 
> of movement-building. We should continue with this vision. Education a big 
> theme at the last meeting, and it seemed that everyone agreed that it should 
> be part of the movement. This is education. We shouldn't sacrifice this 
> component because we don't see it as part of 'business' or if we feel we are 
> already know all we need to know about theory, history, and practice.
> 
> On a political note. We can all learn alot--from the 20 year veteran to the 
> new activist-- from the Chicano Student movement that transformed the 
> California education system last time around. Connecting to past experience 
> and understanding this great contribution of the Chicano/Latino community to 
> civil rights will help inform current movement and appreciate what students 
> and our comunidad are capable of. We need this knowledge.
> 
> We in the Chicano Studies department are also using this as an opportunity 
> to involve new students in our classes, promoting it as a department 
> endorsed event and encouraging student participation. Students have shown an 
> interest, especially as it makes their history relevant to what EFA is 
> doing. This is key for movement-building in the affected communities.
> 
> We should continue to find ways of growing the EFA, involving new students, 
> and making our work relevant especially to the marginalized working class 
> and communities of color that bear the heaviest burden of budget cuts and 
> who have demonstrated their leadership in the new movement.
> 
> Solidaridad,
> 
> Justin
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <sorlofsky at upte-cwa.org>
> To: "Marcos Perez" <marcosresiste at hotmail.com>; 
> <educationforall at lists.aktivix.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Educationforall] EFA proposed agenda for fridaysmeeting12:00pm 
> R-115
> 
> 
> > hi again Marcos,
> > i still think the time crunch will be a problem, & there is a lot to 
> > cover, so why not do the educational part at the end of the agenda for 
> > those who can stay a little later?
> > so many details!
> > susan
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Marcos Perez marcosresiste at hotmail.com
> > Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:03:47 -0800
> > To: educationforall at lists.aktivix.org
> > Subject: Re: [Educationforall] EFA proposed agenda for fridays 
> > meeting12:00pm R-115
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> The agenda stands at about two hours, not three. I do think that we 
> >> should keep the educational portion (movie showing at the beginning) as 
> >> we have done in all previous EFA meetings. I also think that the 
> >> educational portion could be reduced from 45 minutes total to just 30 
> >> minutes. Hope this works well for all. Also the teach-out/walkout and the 
> >> larger march at Balboa park are being planned out at the EFA meeting. 
> >> This was crystal clear at last fridays meeting.
> >>
> >> -Marcos
> >>
> >> for the EFA Coordinating Committee
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The following is the proposed agenda for this fridays meeting. Please 
> >> note the meeting will start precisely at 12:00pm and therefore will run 
> >> for just under two hours.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. Introductions-5 min
> >>
> >>
> >> 2. Educational portion: Movie showing- Chicano Walkouts- ( 15 minutes of 
> >> selected chapters from this documentary and 15 minutes for 
> >> discussion.) -30 minutes total
> >>
> >>
> >> 3. Specific organizing for 3/4 at City including walkout/rally/teach out. 
> >> Logistics, establish a program, and outreach efforts. -40 min
> >>
> >>
> >> 4. Specific organizing for 3/4 larger regional march from balboa park to 
> >> governors' office. Logistics, establish a program, and outreach 
> >> efforts. -40 min
> >>
> >>
> >> 5. Announcements- 5 min
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: justinakers at cox.net
> >> To: kmayhew at sdccd.edu; marcosresiste at hotmail.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Educationforall] EFA proposed agenda for fridays 
> >> meeting12:00pmR-115
> >> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:59:28 -0800
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I do think, though, we could cut it down to 15 minutes of clips and 15 
> >> min of discussion. If we start precisely
> >> at 12, instead of 1220 or 1230 then I think we can accomplish both 
> >> objectives.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: Kelly Mayhew
> >> To: Marcos Perez ; educationforall at lists.aktivix.org
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:24 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Educationforall] EFA proposed agenda for fridays 
> >> meeting12:00pmR-115
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I tried to send this last night, but it didn't go through.
> >>
> >> Thank you for putting this together Marcos. May I make a proposal, 
> >> though? I think the agenda should be flipped to have the planning 
> >> sessions for the 3/4 actions at the beginning of the meeting. Then you 
> >> can show the film for who ever can stay. People have rearranged their 
> >> schedules to come to this meeting in order to plan for the events. And 
> >> right now, planning for them is crucial since, as you've noted Marcos, 
> >> there are only two more weeks left. As the agenda stands, it will be a 
> >> 3+ hour meeting, which is hard for people to accommodate. For myself, I 
> >> have a meeting that I have to go to at 1:30, so I'll have to leave at 1 
> >> anyway.
> >>
> >> We have a lot of exciting things on our plates! Let's get them nailed 
> >> down :)
> >>
> >> Just a reminder: for the 3 pm event here are the areas people were 
> >> working on:
> >>
> >> Program: Marcos, Jim
> >> Outreach: Tony, Tania, Kurt, Larissa
> >> Logistics: Susan, Michelle, Nikki, Jose, Kelly
> >>
> >> The Teach-Out is coming together well. The big focus should be the 3:00 
> >> events and on the walk-out.
> >>
> >> Thanks! Kelly
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Marcos Perez [mailto:marcosresiste at hotmail.com]
> >> Sent: Wed 2/17/2010 8:12 PM
> >> To: educationforall at lists.aktivix.org
> >> Subject: [Educationforall] EFA proposed agenda for fridays meeting 
> >> 12:00pmR-115
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The next Education For All meeting will be this friday 2/19, 12pm in room 
> >> R-115, San Diego City College 1313 Park Blvd. As many of you are aware, 
> >> EFA is currently organizing all the logistical aspects and developing 
> >> specific programs for the March 4th events and actions. This includes the 
> >> City College walkout, teach-out/rally, and also the larger city wide 
> >> march to the governers' office which will initially start at Centro 
> >> Cultural de la Raza in Balboa Park at 3:00.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> EFA's Coordinating Committee has decided to have as the first part of the 
> >> agenda, a movie showing on the Chicano Walkouts that draws some lessons 
> >> that we could learn from for today's student/worker movement against the 
> >> budget cuts.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Please come out and contribute and help with the organizing efforts of 
> >> these events. This will be EFA second to last meeting before March 4th, 
> >> we are only two weeks away!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The following is the proposed agenda for this fridays meeting.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. Introductions-5 min
> >>
> >>
> >> 2. Educational portion: Movie showing- Chicano Walkouts- ( 30 minutes of 
> >> selected chapters from this documentary and 15 minutes for 
> >> discussion.) -45 minutes
> >>
> >>
> >> 3. Specific organizing for 3/4 at City including walkout/rally/teach out. 
> >> Logistics, establish a program, and outreach efforts. -30 min
> >>
> >>
> >> 4. Specific organizing for 3/4 larger regional march from balboa park to 
> >> governors' office. Logistics, establish a program, and outreach 
> >> efforts. -30 min
> >>
> >>
> >> 5. Announcements- 5 min
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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