[Educationforall] Fw: EFA, proposed new flyer for engaging new members

Thu Mar 11 02:41:23 UTC 2010

Hi Kurt,
First there is no need to call me "Ms Sudano"  it is formal and I consider us to be friends. 

This flyer effects me because I am a college student in San Diego county.  For you to say that the flyer doesn't effect me "in any way shape or form" is an interesting comment to make.

I think the art work is more than terrific, in fact your friend is as talanted as Wayne!  I don't know what the word "Clandestine" means or how it relates to meetings. 

I didn't ever suggest that you needed to "run to Wayne" every 5 minutes.  Your comment sounds a little defensive. My intent wasn't to cause you to feel defensive.  Wayne is one of the coordinating committee members of EFA and this why I referenced him.   

I am not certain what to make about the comment you made referencing "ego."   I said,  ".....with out consulting with other people or groups that make up San Diego County as a whole."  

I will say this again,
"Given the integrity of the student leaders involved in the proposed discussion I have no doubt that we will be successful in our endeavors." 
Crystal

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From: Kurt Wellman <kurt_wellman at yahoo.com>
To: Crystal Sudano <kitt4now2000 at yahoo.com>
Cc: educationforall at lists.aktivix.org
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 6:41:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Educationforall] Fwd: EFA, proposed new flyer for engaging new members

Ms. Sudano, with all due respect, i must write and add the following, if you read the subject line above,it says "proposed", flier, thats exactly what it is, a proposal, i really dont feel that i need your approval to make a proposal, i for one am certainly not trying to do anything by creating this flyer, a friend of mine in the armed forces who wanted to help with the movement and who wasnt able to attend, created this. It is a stunning picture and the mission statement is phenomenal, it is a good flier, whether its put into use or stored on my hard drive, now that will be discussed.
I dont have the time or energy for clandestine meetings or to check in with wayne every 5 minutes, i stand with my brothers and sisters in absolute solidarity, there is no ego, there is no recognition, to achieve victory, we are going to have to let go.
M4 was huge but i dont have the luxury of rumination there are many other projects that we are actively involved in, we have alot of work to do.
i also applaud your work on behalf of the movement, i for one am grateful, but i dont see how this flier affects you in any way shape or form.

Kurt A. Wellman EFA
http://www.educationforallcoalition.com/
http://www.witches.meetup.com/1369/

--- On Mon, 3/8/10, Crystal Sudano <kitt4now2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>From: Crystal Sudano <kitt4now2000 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Educationforall] Fw: EFA, proposed new flyer for engaging new members
>To: "Kurt Wellman" <kurt_wellman at yahoo.com>, "Wayne Scherer" <wscherer420 at hotmail.com>, kelvinrodeo at sbcglobal.net
>Cc: "Elizabeth Rodriguez SD City College EFAC" <blue_nebula15 at yahoo.com>, marcosresiste at hotmail.com, "Debora Santos SDSU Rev 102" <d.santos85 at yahoo.com>, "Cody Stephens" <cstep5150 at yahoo.com>
>Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 8:48 AM
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>Kurt,
>I am concerned as to  how this flyer was developed without consulting with others people or groups that make up San Diego County as a whole.  Am I to understand that EFA is planning to serve as the coordinating body for all of San Diego?  Marcos and I were the "points of contacts" to upload and coordinate for San Diego M4 Actions. However it is true EFA conducted much of the work specific to San Diego as a whole and for the most part other colleges and Universities rather "showed up" to the event EFA produced. 
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> Unbeknownst to you a meeting was requested between EFA Coordinating Committee, Wayne, Marcos and Elizabeth and a few students from the SDSU M4 Committee to debrief from M4 and to discuss issues related to SDSU and EFA current working relationship  and begin discussions about creating solidarity among San Diego Community colleges and Universities as a whole.  
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>Please know that I did  contact Wayne tonight to inquire about the flyer created below. 
>I look forward to working toward understanding the goals EFA has set and creating solidarity in San Diego County. 
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>Given the integrity of the student leaders involved in the proposed discussion I have no doubt that we will be succesfull in our endevors. 
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>Cheers!
>Crystal Sudano
>SDSU
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From: Kurt Wellman <kurt_wellman at yahoo.com>
>To: educationforall at lists.aktivix.org
>Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 7:50:19 PM
>Subject: [Educationforall] Fw: EFA, proposed new flyer for engaging new members
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>Kurt A. Wellman EFA
>http://www.educationforallcoalition.com/
>http://www.witches.meetup.com/1369/
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>--- On Mon, 3/8/10, Kelvin Rodeo <kelvinrodeo at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>>From: Kelvin Rodeo  <kelvinrodeo at sbcglobal.net>
>>Subject: EFA
>>To: kurt_wellman at yahoo.com
>>Date: Monday,  March 8, 2010, 3:35 AM
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>>Marine Fighter Attack Training Squadron 101
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