[g8-sheffield] Re: g8-sheffield Digest, Vol 4, Issue 53

Fri Jun 24 20:49:26 BST 2005

198 names on that letter! Without even trying! We all have far more in common than divides us.
I could easily add another 50. Maybe we all could. 700 at the George Galloway meeting. 
Do you think we are building a movement here?
And things seem to be going even better in the States.
Ian

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Today's Topics:

1. court (Nat)
2. mini bus 27 0r 29 june (Helen and Nick)
3. transport (Nat)
4. Re: mas mobilisation (Rage Machine)
5. Re: Re: mas mobilisation (Tim van Tinteren)
6. Re: Re: mas mobilisation (Kathleen Holliday)
7. G8 debate - go see Opendemocracy (Dan)
8. Fw: witness to police behaviour on Thursday night (Jillian Creasy)
9. Visiting the Commonplace. (Benjamin Major)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:02:01 +0100
From: Nat 
Subject: [g8-sheffield] court
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does anyone know what happened in court this morning?
I went down to support but i may have got there too late/early.

nat

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:49:29 +0100 (BST)
From: Helen and Nick 
Subject: [g8-sheffield] mini bus 27 0r 29 june
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looks like we may do a mini bus up to scotland on the
27 or 29 june. please get intouch if you want a space.

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:36:20 +0100
From: Nat 
Subject: [g8-sheffield] transport 
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Hi Helen and Nick,

I am still up for driving on iether of those dates (I would prefer to 
go 27th tho`).And want to return on 8th.
Will ther be another meeting soon, then we can get deposits and 
definate numbers an stuff. so far i can guarantee 3 places.

nat

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:27:03 +0000
From: "Rage Machine" 
Subject: [g8-sheffield] Re: mas mobilisation
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Why is everyone so keen at giving the Socialist Worker's a kicking?
Is it envy at their organisation?
Envy at the Galloway success?
I just fail to understand why, in debating mass mobilisation, we have to 
make side swipes at our comrades.
Isn't this why we always fail?

Just because they organise themselves, lets respect their commitment and 
action.

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:45:31 +0100
From: "Tim van Tinteren" 
Subject: Re: [g8-sheffield] Re: mas mobilisation
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To be fair, there are plenty of reasons to lambast the Socialist Wankers'
Party, but demonstrating against the G8 is not one of them.

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Subject: [g8-sheffield] Re: mas mobilisation

> Why is everyone so keen at giving the Socialist Worker's a kicking?
> Is it envy at their organisation?
> Envy at the Galloway success?
> I just fail to understand why, in debating mass mobilisation, we have to
> make side swipes at our comrades.
> Isn't this why we always fail?
>
> Just because they organise themselves, lets respect their commitment and
> action.
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:10:16 +0100
From: "Kathleen Holliday" 
Subject: Re: [g8-sheffield] Re: mas mobilisation
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Rage Machine said:

> I just fail to understand why, in debating mass mobilisation, we have to
> make side swipes at our comrades.
> Isn't this why we always fail?

Divide and Rule!
Together we stand, divided we fall!

Does this just apply to people in any given "click"?

Why is it that the people of the city weren't motivated to give any sign of
their despair?

Is it because you are unapproachable, and too militant and much too
defensive, overly factional and ready to argue rather than reason? You
aren't attracting the right people and it's a shame because it isn't good to
have our beautiful planet in the hands of profiteering and despotic business
men. Do you think that there are no people who think this in their hearts
but don't want to be on the front line?

If the word "anarchist", or "militant" is changed in it's meaning in
NewSpeak, then why do you use it? In the USA in the sixties, no-one wanted
to be identified with a "commie" because it was in their television and
radio propaganda, the same thing is happening now. If you are all free
people why don't you start setting a better example.

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:19:25 +0100
From: Dan 
Subject: [g8-sheffield] G8 debate - go see Opendemocracy
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"The agenda is set: save Africa, round of golf, save the planet."

http://www.opendemocracy.net/globalization-G8/scotland_2615.jsp

and http://www.opendemocracy.net/content/g8_summit.jsp for the full 
site. F**kin' ace.

Dan

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:55:23 +0100
From: "Jillian Creasy" 
Subject: [g8-sheffield] Fw: witness to police behaviour on Thursday
night
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jillian Creasy" 
To: "g8" 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 12:00 AM
Subject: witness to police behaviour on Thursday night

> Dear all
> I had left by the time things kicked off on Thursday night. I have had
this
> email from someone who witnessed things which clearly shook him but is
> prepared to act as a witness.
> Is someone collecting these inciidents? Can someone get back to him?
> Thanks
> Jillian
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ganymede harrogate" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:04 PM
> Subject: Re: G8 Protest
>
>
> > Dear Julian,
> > I was involved in the march on the thursday night, and was very upset by
> the
> > treatment of two protesters by the police "snatch squads" in riot gear.
I
> > saw one man arrested, who was not doing anything wrong at all; it seems
> his
> > only crime was being slightly the worse for drink! The second man had
sat
> > with others in a huddle when a police squad formed a "scrum" around him,
> > trying to pull him out. They withdrew after a minute, but the man seemed
> > very shaken and distressed. Do you know if either men intend to complain
> > formally to the police? If so, I might be able to testify as to what I
> saw.
> > Yours sincerely,
> > John.
> >
> > >From: "Jillian Creasy" 
> > >Reply-To: "Jillian Creasy" 
> > >To: "john honneyman" 
> > >Subject: Re: G8 Protest
> > >Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 00:18:54 +0100
> > >
> > >Dear all
> > >
> > >Thanks for you support. It looked as though the police were softening
> their
> > >position so I sent this shortened version of the statement to the press
> on
> > >1st June (with first 140 signatures) and again on the 6th June (with
180
> > >signatures). The latest news is that they will allow a small group of
> > >protestors near the Winter Gardens on the Wed eve and the Cutlers Hall
on
> > >the Thursday eve - otherwise it will be Devonshire Green only. They are
> > >using section 14 of the public order act to ban groups of 2 or more
> people
> > >anywhere else in the city!!!!
> > >
> > >Jillian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Town Hall, Sheffield, S1 2HH
> > >
> > >
> > >6th June 2005
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Dear Sir
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On June 15-17 the 'Justice and Home affairs' ministers of the G8, the
> > >world's seven richest nations and Russia, will gather in Sheffield to
> > >discuss the home front of the 'war against terrorism'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Whatever one's view of the G8, we urge Sheffield people to oppose any
> > >restrictions on the right to protest. We believe that a blanket ban on
> > >peaceful protests in our city centre would be an outrageous and
> > >unacceptable infringement of our democratic rights.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Yours sincerely,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Cllr Jillian Creasy, Sheffield Green Party
> > >
> > >Lucinda Wakefield, Chair, Sheffield Stop the War Coalition
> > >
> > >Stewart Kemp, Sheffield CND
> > >
> > >Steve Goodacre, Sheffield Friends of the Earth
> > >
> > >James Heath, Burngreave Community Action Trust
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >and 193 individuals as follows:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >John Smith
> > >
> > >Rob Cole
> > >
> > >S Sherif
> > >
> > >Jim Cowley
> > >
> > >Lyn Kemp
> > >
> > >Jane Bloom
> > >
> > >Sophie Macfadyan
> > >
> > >Megan Tomson
> > >
> > >Lily Tomson
> > >
> > >Peter Tomson
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Rebecca Hutten
> > >
> > >John Revill
> > >
> > >Tim Rutter
> > >
> > >Philip Satur
> > >
> > >Richard Balthazor
> > >
> > >Natalie Turner
> > >
> > >Chantelle Campling
> > >
> > >Ian Wallace
> > >
> > >Christopher Senior
> > >
> > >Lucian O'Neill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Adam Moran
> > >
> > >Beth Cole
> > >
> > >Mark Swancott
> > >
> > >Celia Mather
> > >
> > >Mike Nutt
> > >
> > >Paul O'Brien
> > >
> > >Julie Elliot
> > >
> > >Eamonn Ward
> > >
> > >Tom Lockley
> > >
> > >Richard Pinder
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Gary Ward
> > >
> > >Sue King
> > >
> > >Jeremy Dittmer
> > >
> > >Richard Roper
> > >
> > >William Thin
> > >
> > >Nick Howard
> > >
> > >Simon Geller
> > >
> > >Angela Roberts
> > >
> > >Dan Lyons
> > >
> > >Dr Sarah Dadswell
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Jenny Patient
> > >
> > >Ray King
> > >
> > >Ankie Hoogvelt
> > >
> > >Bev Cross
> > >
> > >Kathleen Holliday
> > >
> > >Helen Todd
> > >
> > >Gary Stimson
> > >
> > >Graham Wroe
> > >
> > >Rob Wood
> > >
> > >Paddy Moran
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Alistair Tice
> > >
> > >Peter Scott
> > >
> > >Sue Taylor
> > >
> > >Sophie Postlethwaite
> > >
> > >Paul Boizot
> > >
> > >Danny Antrobus
> > >
> > >Alice Collins
> > >
> > >Mike Tomson
> > >
> > >Robin John Ouzman
> > >Amparo Perez-Gutierrez
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Kathleen Brown
> > >
> > >Leni Solinger
> > >
> > >Andy Gordon
> > >
> > >Rick Auckland
> > >
> > >Dr Charles Heatley
> > >
> > >Michael S Broadhurst
> > >
> > >Melanie Broadhurst
> > >
> > >Dr Anthony Frascina
> > >
> > >Alison Jinks
> > >
> > >Graeme Ritchie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Annette Taberner
> > >
> > >Matt Hegarty
> > >
> > >Allan Moffatt
> > >
> > >David Robbie
> > >
> > >Adrian Budgeon
> > >
> > >Dr Willy Kitchen
> > >
> > >Carol Wroe
> > >
> > >Graham Hall
> > >
> > >Helen Scarlett
> > >
> > >Kath Cripps
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >John Vardy
> > >
> > >Caitlin Merrett King
> > >
> > >Adam Medcalf
> > >
> > >Scott McCracken
> > >
> > >Dougald Hine
> > >
> > >James Littlewood
> > >
> > >Liz Gregson
> > >
> > >Anne Davies
> > >
> > >Kay Nicholson
> > >
> > >Heather Rostron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Susanne Hartley
> > >
> > >Stuart Bloom
> > >
> > >Jane Bloom
> > >
> > >Dilys Noble
> > >
> > >Hannah Lucas
> > >
> > >Alistair Griggs
> > >
> > >Davy King
> > >
> > >Peter Bayliss
> > >
> > >Lucy Atkinson
> > >
> > >Gary Hunt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Kath Clements
> > >
> > >Jackie Knight
> > >
> > >Fiona Nicholson
> > >
> > >Jill Gibson
> > >
> > >Stuart Mee
> > >
> > >Daniel Abrahams
> > >
> > >Paul Nizinskyi
> > >
> > >Edward Maltby
> > >
> > >Jane Woodin
> > >
> > >Ada Jinks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Christina Hespe
> > >
> > >Lee Rock
> > >
> > >Debs Maxfield
> > >
> > >John Downing
> > >
> > >Sally Beeston
> > >
> > >Steve Barnard
> > >
> > >Russell Stearman
> > >
> > >Kate Elliott
> > >
> > >Bryan Hopkins
> > >
> > >Mark Wrangham
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Miriam Dobson
> > >
> > >Ben Winston
> > >
> > >Stuart Thomason
> > >
> > >Dr Julie White
> > >
> > >Jol Miskin
> > >
> > >Mark Cohen
> > >
> > >Tony McGovern
> > >
> > >Bob Banks
> > >
> > >Helen Hodgson
> > >
> > >Jax Blunt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Joseph Noble
> > >
> > >Sarah Jane Palmer
> > >
> > >Bernard Little
> > >
> > >Nasim Ali
> > >
> > >Pat Durrant
> > >
> > >Gary Grief
> > >
> > >Robin Luxan
> > >
> > >David Garlovsky
> > >
> > >Dave Parsons
> > >
> > >Heather Hampson
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Sue Harris
> > >
> > >John Cotton.
> > >
> > >Dilys Noble
> > >
> > >Lorna Warren
> > >
> > >Susannah Bird
> > >
> > >Belinda Wilson
> > >
> > >James Cooper
> > >
> > >Robert Spooner
> > >
> > >Margaret Spooner
> > >
> > >Graham McAll
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Nigel West
> > >
> > >Maureen Edwards
> > >
> > >Christine Healey
> > >
> > >Jasmine Warwick
> > >
> > >Prof Michael West
> > >
> > >Hannabelle Stevens
> > >
> > >David Ryder
> > >
> > >Alison Higgins
> > >
> > >Vanessa Siddall
> > >
> > >Tom Stafford
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Chris Taylor
> > >
> > >Harriet Cameron
> > >
> > >Dr J A Foley
> > >
> > >David Nicol
> > >
> > >Kathy Aston
> > >
> > >Frances Brindley
> > >
> > >Richard Simpson
> > >
> > >Mary C Rogie
> > >
> > >Lisa Wallace
> > >
> > >Graham Benson
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Analeen Moore
> > >
> > >Mary Williams
> > >
> > >D Woodall
> > >
> > >D Parsons
> > >
> > >Sarah Jane Hamshere
> > >
> > >Natalie Kenley
> > >
> > >Clive Broom
> > >
> > >Kate Pinder
> > >
> > >Dr Andrew Manasse
> > >
> > >Janet Milton
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Jon Baker
> > >
> > >Bev Booker
> > >
> > >Gina Clayton
> > >
> > >Mike Fitter
> > >
> > >Bo Khan
> > >
> > >Scott Fletcher
> > >
> > >Susannah Gent
> > >
> > >Thomas Salmon
> > >
> > >Sally Brooks
> > >
> > >Anna Colvin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Abi Gibbens
> > >
> > >John Honneyman
> > >
> > >Graham Knapp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: john honneyman
> > > To: Jillian.Creasy at Sheffield.gov.uk
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:04 PM
> > > Subject: G8 Protest
> > >
> > >
> > > I support the protest agaist the g8 failure to act to "Make poverty
> > >history"
> > > and object to the Sheffield police's violation of our right to
> > >peacefully protest, by not allowing the protest in Winter Gardens.
> > > Yours,
> > > John Honneyman,
> > > Harrogate.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:55:23 +0000
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