[g8-sheffield] Book - Arguments Against the G8
IAN WALLACE
ian.wallace15 at btopenworld.com
Fri May 27 09:09:38 BST 2005
Thanks Steve. That book looks superb, with a brilliant range of contributors. Yes, 'we' should buy some for sale here! We have a Nether Edge PeaceMeal organised for 15th June. Maybe we could get (say) 20 copies, sale or return, to sell there?
Ian
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Today's Topics:
1. publicity - whats on (atw)
2. Logging incidents of intelligence gatheringPre-Summit (@mp)
3. Book: Arguments against the G8 (atw)
4. Re: legal page on wiki (adriana)
5. Fwd: [info at 2012show.org: Re: [imc-sheffield] 2012 show comes
to Sheffield] (Chris)
6. Re: publicity - whats on (Chris)
7. info g8 (oliver lardy)
8. hi (oliver lardy)
9. hi (oliver lardy)
10. Re[2]: [g8-sheffield] publicity - whats on (atw)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 00:36:27 +0100
From: atw
Subject: [g8-sheffield] publicity - whats on
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Here's a list of events from the flyer. I was wondering if anyone has
contacted Schnews with this list? If not now would probably be the
time we should let them know...
from: http://www.sheffield.dissent.org.uk/sheffg8flyer3-0001.pdf
Saturday 11 June - Demonstration against the G8 Justice and Interior
Ministers in advance of them coming to town. The demonstration will
assemble at 10.30am on the Saturday and will march into the 'Peace in
the Park' Festival in Cemetery Park. This march was called for by the
Stop the War Coalition. For more info see
www.sheffieldagainstwar.org.uk
Sunday 12 June - Punk G8 Dissent Benefit gig and info sharing day for
mobilisations in Sheffield and Gleneagles - more details to be
confirmed. Contact info at slendermeans.org.uk
Wednesday June 15 - June 17 - opening of convergence spaces in
Sheffield for people to eat, sleep, plan, create, share and learn
Wednesday 15 June - G8 Ministers arrive in town. G8 Ministers will be
dining that day at the Winter Gardens.
Thursday 16 June - Ongoing Ministerial meetings in Sheffield.
Ministers will be dining at the Cutlers Hall.
Thursday 16 - Friday 17 June - Call out for actions and protest
against the G8 in Sheffield. Local people against the G8 host a
counterconference in the convergence space with workshops, films,
music and lots more. More on details on actions and counterconference
coming soon at www.sheffield.dissent.org.uk
Friday 17 June - Party to celebrate our own humanity against the
inhumanity of the G8.
Independent grassroots news: www.sheffield.indymedia.org.uk
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 00:25:09 +0100
From: "@mp"
Subject: [g8-sheffield] Logging incidents of intelligence
gatheringPre-Summit
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(just forwarding this interesting letter from colleagues)
g8legalsupport at riseup.net wrote:
> One thing that wasn't discussed in any detail at last weekend's gathering
> (due to time constraints), was keeping a log of all incidents of
> intelligence gathering/harassment by police in the run up to the summit.
>
> While not suggesting the police are in any way as joined up as they like
> to think, i think it would be useful in geting a global picture of their
> activities, particular forms of intelligence gathering, who they are
> questioning, whats asked etc. This will inform our post-summit meeting
> much better and also may be useful in the longer term possibly as evidence
> if any legal actions are set in motion on harassment, ECHR etc...
>
> Below for instance is info someone forwarded to the G8 email about a
> fishing expedition SB had in Lancaster, on the pretext of the George Fox
> Six activists...
>
> ============================================
> ... In connection with those investigations [the "George Fox Six"], we had
> knocking on our doors by some Special Branch outfit that is known to local
> animal rights activists and they asked for names of our friends - i.e.,
> asking me for my friends, my friends for me and so on -
> obviously in part knowing individuals and in part mappiong out who works
> with who. They went to someone's work place and a colleague of hers was
> forthcoming in providing info about our social centre (which belongs to
> the workers' cooperative health food shop in which they work) and so on.
> They then called him in his home and asked him about what he knew about
> the G8 and related activities.
>
> We havent seen them since and as such it seemed like mere intimidation,
> but certainly also like a process of collecting names, addresses and
> relations.... they asked my girl friend if she was my girl friend when
> she opened the doorm they asked about her accent and they have generally
> been very intimidating.... that is about it... it happened a few months
> ago...
>
> hope that helps!
> ============================================
> (ADDITIONAL INFO: https://www4.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/05/310827.html //
> http://www.free-webspace.biz/GeorgeFox/ //
> http://www.thisisthelakedistrict.co.uk/news/lancscitizen/kendallancsnews/display.var.591177.0.we_are_being_gagged.php
> )
> =========================================
>
> Anyone up for keeping a file of these kinds of reports in one place?
>
> Dermot
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 00:56:01 +0100
From: atw
Subject: [g8-sheffield] Book: Arguments against the G8
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I checked out Chris's link: How to spin the G8 which was interesting
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/05/311469.html, followed some
other links and came across this new book: Arguments Against G8 (see
below).
I was thinking of getting a copy but then thought it might be worth
getting several if anyone else is interested. Could sell some at
stalls etc.. too perhaps..??
Anyone else want a copy?
steve
http://www.plutobooks.com/
Arguments Against G8
Edited by Gill Hubbard and David Miller
May 2005/ 264pp / Pb £11.99 / $19.95 / 0745324207
--With Noam Chomsky, George Monbiot, Susan George, Mark Curtis,
Caroline Lucas and many others--
'One of the most important books in recent years. ... This book draws
together some of the most brilliant analysts in the world. I cannot
recommend it highly enough.' Robert W. McChesney, author, The Problem
of the Media
'The G8 runs what South African president Thabo Mbeki and others
describe as 'global apartheid'. ... He -- and everyone else -- should
read this superb book, and then help abolish, not polish, the chains
of global apartheid.' Trevor Ngwane, Organising Secretary of the
Anti-Privatisation Forum, Johannesburg
'This book reminds us brilliantly that, far from ending poverty,
today's political elites are the chief creators of human want, war and
ecological disaster. ... If you care about our future, read this
book.' John McAllion, Oxfam Scotland
This is a one-stop guide for anyone who wants to know more about the
G8, what it is, and why it's a problem. Leading writers and activists
including Noam Chomsky, George Monbiot, Susan George, Mark Curtis and
Caroline Lucas explain in brief, succinct chapters, what is wrong with
the G8 neo-liberal agenda and propose alternatives.
Chapters cover G8 attitudes to the key issues: war, corporate power,
climate change, immigration, trade, debt, food. Ideal for anyone who
is troubled by the current direction set by our world leaders, this
book is also a great tool for activists.
Independent grassroots news: www.sheffield.indymedia.org.uk
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 00:33:00 +0100
From: adriana
Subject: Re: [g8-sheffield] legal page on wiki
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...
the "substantial differences to English law" i am afraid there is not
much difference under the antiterrorist acts...
The point is some BUST cards would also be extremely useful, including
lawyers phone numbers... a single legal support team meeting would be
very useful too.
(Look also for regulations related to "PACE")
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Helen and Nick wrote:
> We could also put on the "No comment Guide to Arrest" look on the
> www.slendermeans - click on resources. Scrolling down it has a whole
> section on legal info, cluding your rights about identification and
> section 60. Maybe a bit out of date now but still a lot of useful
> info.
>
> The G8 legal recommendations maybe the scottish ones, and there are
> some substantial differenc to english law.
>
> Helene --- "@mp" wrote:
>
>>
>> the Legal recommendations for G8 have been published at:
>>
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>
> www.wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/Legal_Recommendations
>
>> (not at www.wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/G8/
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>> as said
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 01:08:33 +0100
From: Chris
Subject: [g8-sheffield] Fwd: [info at 2012show.org: Re: [imc-sheffield]
2012 show comes to Sheffield]
To: Sheffield Social Forum , "List for
organising protests at the G8 meeting in Sheffield."
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Hi
This sounds like it'll be good, I'll add it to the G8
timetable.
They don't have a venue yet, Greentop and Sheffield
Independant File are a couple of places they are going to
look at.
Also they are looking for other people to join in, this is
from a irc chat:
00:57 < twentytwelve> it would be good if we can find a
venue that we could also have a video
room
00:57 < twentytwelve> or if not, we can project videos,
00:58 < twentytwelve> it might be nice if someone your end
can take care of this?
00:58 <@r7> vid or dvd?
00:58 < twentytwelve> we can bring our own, but it might
be quite cool if there was a local
video-jam
00:59 < twentytwelve> dvd, wotever. visuals. like.
00:59 * twentytwelve makes radio
01:00 < twentytwelve> but what will be possible will
depend a little on the venue, clearly
01:01 <@chrisc> yeah, somone in sheffield might be on for
that
01:01 < twentytwelve> the intention of the tour is musically
also to be somewhere between a gig and a
jam..
Chris
----- Forwarded message from 2012 show -----
--the 2012 show
the end of the world...
and the beginning
Musicians, artists and others from Resonance FM and elsewhere are creating
'the biggest band in the world' from now until the next time the G8 land
in the UK.
On tour (see below)
between now and July, creating a space to expand peoples' minds...to see &
hear things differently. They are looking for freaky rebels &
revolutionaries to take the floor with them, to perform in one way or
another. Places where the periphery is centralised and where the outliers
can find others, connect with groups, and find inspiration...and join this
summer's mobilisation.
This doesn't end in Gleneagles...the struggle will
be long. First post-G8 date is planned in mid-July - we hope to see people
who spent time with each other this summer, meeting up with each other
again then.
on CD:
a great CD is available to you for your fundraising for the mobilisation.
If you'd like copies please drop us a line, saying who you are and how
many you'd like.
2012 show on tour
Sun 22 May
Bristol
Sat 28 May
London
Sun 5 June
Birmingham
tbc Nottingham
Sat 11 June
Sheffield
12.13,14 June
Manchester
Sat 18 June
Newcastle
Sat 25 June
Glasgow
Sat 9 July
Edinburgh
mid July
Bradford
DETAILS of VENUES on www.2012show.org
if you want to
-join us, perform, VJ etc
-distribute your propaganda
-play videos,
-use the venue for workshops, film showing etc in the afternoon
-sell the CDs
please contact us
info at 2012show.org
--
http://www.2012show.org
----- End forwarded message -----
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 01:21:42 +0100
From: Chris
Subject: Re: [g8-sheffield] publicity - whats on
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Hi
On Wed 25-May-2005 at 12:36:27AM +0100, Steve Against the
War wrote:
> Here's a list of events from the flyer.
This is the list to keep up to date:
https://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/G8#Timetable
I'll update the other timetable again soon, it's based on
the one above:
http://sheffield.dissent.org.uk/timetable.html
Chris
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 10:36:22 +0100 (BST)
From: oliver lardy
Subject: [g8-sheffield] info g8
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:46:53 +0100
From: atw
Subject: Re[2]: [g8-sheffield] publicity - whats on
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C> This is the list to keep up to date:
C> https://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/G8#Timetable
I'm trying to do a poster and include relevent events from above.
However some things don't seem to be definite.
specifically...
* Saturday 11 June - the 2012 show (http://www.2012show.org/)
Time & place/cost ???
* Sunday 12 June Punk G8 Dissent Benefit - gig and info sharing day
for mobilisations in Sheffield and Gleneagles - more details to be
confirmed. Contact info at slendermeans.org.uk
(mailto:info at slendermeans.org.uk)
Time & place/cost ???
* Thursday 16 June Make Povery History 'Rice for Dinner' at 7.30pm.
place/cost/can anyone go/organised by who ?
* Friday 17 June - possible party to celebrate our own humanity
against the inhumanity of the G8.
Any more info or should I just leave this off?
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