<DIV>Just so everybody knows - Nether Edge Against War had a meeting yesterday afternoon at which we agreed to produce a G8 Nether Edge leaflet this evening. For distribution to every house in the district. Please leave any spare shoulder launched ground to air missile launchers in my outside toilet. </DIV>
<DIV>Ian<BR><BR><B><I>g8-sheffield-request@lists.aktivix.org</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Send g8-sheffield mailing list submissions to<BR>g8-sheffield@lists.aktivix.org<BR><BR>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/g8-sheffield<BR>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>g8-sheffield-request@lists.aktivix.org<BR><BR>You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>g8-sheffield-owner@lists.aktivix.org<BR><BR>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents of g8-sheffield digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR>1. Re: Who what when where and why? (worldwarfree@riseup.net)<BR>2. Re: The G8 in Sheffield - why does it matter?<BR>(worldwarfree@riseup.net)<BR>3. Re: g8-sheffield Digest, Vol 3, Issue 19 (IAN WALLACE)<BR>4. Re: Re: g8-sheffield Digest, Vol 3, Issue
19<BR>(worldwarfree@riseup.net)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 05:40:49 -0700<BR>From: worldwarfree@riseup.net<BR>Subject: Re: [g8-sheffield] Who what when where and why?<BR>To: Steve Marshall <SAMARSHALL2001@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>Cc: g8-sheffield@lists.aktivix.org<BR>Message-ID: <1116247249.428894d1b2535@mail.riseup.net><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>hello steve.. you might have worked out we can not give the location of the<BR>conter confrance location as yet.. however haveing walked around the city<BR>centre today it seems the exclushon zone will not reach devonshire green.. the<BR>reson for devonshire green as a meeting point for one of the main actions ie<BR>critacall mass.. is that it leads us to meny directions.. you know how critcall<BR>mass works.. however this one is very diffront.. thats the one of the 15th at<BR>430.. the aim is to add to the city being
closed.. we aim to show how crass and<BR>undemocratic this whole g8 circus thats comeing to our city is.. here is not the<BR>place to have open chats about what why and so forth.. becasue there reading our<BR>e mails do you not know.. thats why we have meetings every wed 730 at the<BR>rutland here we plot talk in joyess conversation.. a nobel art being lost due<BR>to e mail.. here we meet face to face share the awsome feelings of each<BR>othere.. this e mail lark is good in some respects.. but there is nothing<BR>better than face to face conversations.. so come along share your thoughts<BR>ideas and of course fears.. be part of the joy that is sheffield against g8..<BR>and oh it is an joy a very real plesure to be involved.. if you can not make<BR>meeting e mail me or phone and lets do coffe etc.. the other critcall mass by<BR>the way is on the 11th 830am devonshire green and please come join us for a<BR>what is planed to be a very wonderfull joyess celbration of the nobel art
of<BR>bikes pogo sticks space hoppers walking running and so fourth see you there..<BR><BR>mozaz<BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 05:42:56 -0700<BR>From: worldwarfree@riseup.net<BR>Subject: Re: [g8-sheffield] The G8 in Sheffield - why does it matter?<BR>To: Jenny Patient <JENNY.PATIENT@BLUEYONDER.CO.UK><BR>Cc: sheffsocchoir@topica.com, SheffieldRedRope@yahoogroups.com,<BR>gp-sheff@yahoogroups.com, g8-sheffield@lists.aktivix.org<BR>Message-ID: <1116247376.42889550d082e@mail.riseup.net><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>jenny can we use some of your wonderfull text for the nether edge flyer? and the<BR>one being planned to be given out at the critcall mass and other actions.. it so<BR>clear and wonderfull.. what a plesure to read something that is not a rant etc..<BR><BR>mozaz<BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:44:47 +0100 (BST)<BR>From: IAN WALLACE
<IAN.WALLACE15@BTOPENWORLD.COM><BR>Subject: [g8-sheffield] Re: g8-sheffield Digest, Vol 3, Issue 19<BR>To: g8-sheffield@lists.aktivix.org<BR>Message-ID: <20050516124447.89734.qmail@web86607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>"Helicopters will hang over head for days on end". Yes, I suppose they will. I HATE that noise. Does anybody know where I can buy shoulder launched ground to air missiles? <BR><BR>g8-sheffield-request@lists.aktivix.org wrote:Send g8-sheffield mailing list submissions to<BR>g8-sheffield@lists.aktivix.org<BR><BR>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/g8-sheffield<BR>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>g8-sheffield-request@lists.aktivix.org<BR><BR>You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>g8-sheffield-owner@lists.aktivix.org<BR><BR>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents
of g8-sheffield digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR>1. Who what when where and why? (Steve Marshall)<BR>2. The G8 in Sheffield - why does it matter? (Jenny Patient)<BR>3. Re: The G8 in Sheffield - why does it matter? (Dan)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 01:55:12 +0000<BR>From: "Steve Marshall" <BR>Subject: [g8-sheffield] Who what when where and why?<BR>To: g8-sheffield@lists.aktivix.org<BR>Message-ID: <BR>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed<BR><BR>Dear anti g8 lot.<BR>Hello.<BR>Brief look at your website(wiki.sheffieldsocialforum) tells me that there <BR>will be a "democratic" counter conference. Let the people decide, huh?<BR>Therefore as a people let me ask/and or point out:<BR>1. SCAAT might be interested in June 15th workshop. Needs more information <BR>as to where and how.<BR>2. Point out that centre is spelled centre and not center - which is MUCH <BR>UNFAVOURED USA
spelling.<BR>3. Understand a choir will be singing in City Centre on evening of 15th <BR>June. Will they then also attend the poverty banquet?along with other <BR>musicians?<BR>4. Should for some reason Devonshire Green be illegally closed or <BR>inaccessible on 15th, point out that Ellesmere Green MIGHT WELL BE a super <BR>alternative - multi-cultural and accessible.<BR><BR>Regards and best.<BR>Smiley Steve.<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:40:24 +0100<BR>From: "Jenny Patient" <BR>Subject: [g8-sheffield] The G8 in Sheffield - why does it matter?<BR>To: , ,<BR>, <BR>Message-ID: <000c01c559ea$8fdf69d0$6700a8c0@MJDELL><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Dear all,<BR><BR>I started writing a letter to the paper and it's turned into a bit of a rant, so I thought I'd try it out on you first - I'd appreciate your comments. <BR><BR>Apologies for cross-posting, and congratulations if you're on all these
lists..!<BR><BR>Jenny<BR><BR>The G8 in Sheffield - why does it matter?<BR><BR>Many Sheffield people will now be aware that the G8 Interior and Justice Ministers are meeting in Sheffield on 15-17 June 2005 - but what is it all about?<BR><BR>It's not a democratic forum<BR><BR>The G8 is not the United Nations - it is an exclusive meeting of the seven biggest economies in the world, plus Russia. It's rather like the big boys ganging up in a corner of the school playground.<BR><BR>Their agenda<BR><BR>The G8's agenda has never been to solve the problems of hunger and health experienced by three-quarters of the world's population. They meet to make the world safe for globalisation - a process that puts capitalists in control of everything, right across the world.<BR><BR>How they work<BR><BR>Their states support globalisation through privatisation (e.g. of water supplies in Africa, as well as your bus services) and war (e.g. in Iraq, and the threats to Iran and Cuba). This adds to
insecurity in the global South, and to migration, as the people just try to survive and prosper.<BR><BR>What will the Interior Ministers be talking about?<BR><BR>They see terrorism as the worst threat, and they have used this as an excuse to:<BR><BR>a.. lock up suspects without a trial<BR>b.. increase the state's control by keeping information about everyone<BR>c.. play on people's fear of outsiders, and people with different beliefs, appearance or cultures<BR>They will be sharing ideas about combating terrorism and controlling the movements of the population.<BR><BR>What it means to Sheffield<BR><BR>Sheffield will see some of their ideas in action:<BR><BR>a.. residents will have to carry a passport to enter and leave their homes<BR>b.. armed police will patrol the streets<BR>c.. helicopters will hang overhead for days on end<BR>d.. your email and phone calls may be intercepted<BR>e.. you will be excluded from your city centre while the G8 wine and dine there<BR>f.. pubs, theatres,
clubs and restaurants will have to close, and buses and trams will stop running<BR>Your local MP and city council are, in fact, so proud of your city that they are prepared to exclude all citizens from it in order to show it off. <BR><BR>If you would like to add your voice to the protest against this way of running the world, come to the city centre at 5.30 on Weds 15th June, and see www.dissent.sheffield.org.uk for more information.<BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: http://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/g8-sheffield/attachments/20050516/4c93f811/attachment-0001.html<BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:22:55 +0100<BR>From: Dan <BR>Subject: Re: [g8-sheffield] The G8 in Sheffield - why does it matter?<BR>To: Jenny Patient <BR>Cc: sheffsocchoir@topica.com, SheffieldRedRope@yahoogroups.com,<BR>gp-sheff@yahoogroups.com, g8-sheffield@lists.aktivix.org<BR>Message-ID:
<4288666F.5000306@aktivix.org><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed<BR><BR>Hia,<BR><BR>Excellent! Punchy, witty and accurate. Not too long, and not ranty at <BR>all, to my eye. Also, it's cut out any blind 'G8 are evil corporate <BR>whores wot want to eat our babies' language: the image of boys in the <BR>playground's a lot more realistic, and a lot more derisory. Cool!<BR><BR>Dan<BR><BR>Jenny Patient wrote:<BR><BR>> Dear all,<BR>><BR>> I started writing a letter to the paper and it's turned into a bit of <BR>> a rant, so I thought I'd try it out on you first - I'd appreciate your <BR>> comments.<BR>><BR>> Apologies for cross-posting, and congratulations if you're on all <BR>> these lists..!<BR>><BR>> Jenny<BR>><BR>> *The G8 in Sheffield – why does it matter?*<BR>><BR>> Many Sheffield people will now be aware that the G8 Interior and <BR>> Justice Ministers are meeting in Sheffield on 15-17 June 2005 –
but <BR>> what is it all about?<BR>><BR>> *<BR>><BR>> It’s not a democratic forum<BR>><BR>> *<BR>><BR>> The G8 is not the United Nations – it is an exclusive meeting of the <BR>> seven biggest economies in the world, plus Russia. It’s rather like <BR>> the big boys ganging up in a corner of the school playground.<BR>><BR>> *<BR>><BR>> Their agenda<BR>><BR>> *<BR>><BR>> The G8’s agenda has never been to solve the problems of hunger and <BR>> health experienced by three-quarters of the world’s population. They <BR>> meet to make the world safe for globalisation – a process that puts <BR>> capitalists in control of everything, right across the world.<BR>><BR>> *<BR>><BR>> How they work<BR>><BR>> *<BR>><BR>> Their states support globalisation through privatisation (e.g. of <BR>> water supplies in Africa, as well as your bus services) and war (e.g. <BR>> in Iraq, and the threats to Iran and
Cuba). This adds to insecurity in <BR>> the global South, and to migration, as the people just try to survive <BR>> and prosper.<BR>><BR>> *<BR>><BR>> What will the Interior Ministers be talking about?<BR>><BR>> *<BR>><BR>> They see terrorism as the worst threat, and they have used this as an <BR>> excuse to:<BR>><BR>> * lock up suspects without a trial<BR>> * increase the state’s control by keeping information about everyone<BR>> * play on people’s fear of outsiders, and people with different<BR>> beliefs, appearance or cultures<BR>><BR>> They will be sharing ideas about combating terrorism and controlling <BR>> the movements of the population.<BR>><BR>> *<BR>><BR>> What it means to Sheffield<BR>><BR>> *<BR>><BR>> Sheffield will see some of their ideas in action:<BR>><BR>> * residents will have to carry a passport to enter and leave their<BR>> homes<BR>> * armed police will patrol the
streets<BR>> * helicopters will hang overhead for days on end<BR>> * your email and phone calls may be intercepted<BR>> * you will be excluded from your city centre while the G8 wine and<BR>> dine there<BR>> * pubs, theatres, clubs and restaurants will have to close, and<BR>> buses and trams will stop running<BR>><BR>> Your local MP and city council are, in fact, so proud of your city <BR>> that they are prepared to exclude all citizens from it in order to <BR>> show it off.<BR>><BR>> If you would like to add your voice to the protest against this way of <BR>> running the world, come to the city centre at 5.30 on Weds 15^th June, <BR>> and see www.dissent.sheffield.org.uk <BR>> for more information.<BR>><BR>>------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>><BR>>_______________________________________________<BR>>g8-sheffield mailing
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<1116248132.428898444dd7a@mail.riseup.net><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>Quoting IAN WALLACE <IAN.WALLACE15@BTOPENWORLD.COM>:<BR><BR>"Helicopters will hang over head for days on end". Yes, I suppose they will. I<BR>HATE that noise. Does anybody know where I can buy shoulder launched ground to<BR>air missiles?<BR><BR>we have a few spare.. no jokeing or was i? ian your thoughts on the proposed<BR>flyer by e mail any comments etc would be cool.. we aim to talk about this<BR>proposed flyer at the meeting wed and take to the printers thursday and ready<BR>for posting letter boxes as soon as possible.. so your thoughts any other<BR>thoughts from people would be cool..<BR><BR>mozaz<BR><BR>ps i have been told the<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>g8-sheffield mailing list<BR>g8-sheffield@lists.aktivix.org<BR>http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/g8-sheffield<BR><BR><BR>End of
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