[hackspacebristol] Hackspace access

john cummings mrjohncummings at gmail.com
Tue Feb 12 22:20:42 UTC 2013

Thanks Ian

What do people think about a combination lock on the door? "Keys" are free
and can be changed regularly and handed out through this list. There are
quite a few types that are available, some that are actually in the barrel
of the handle like this one which may be easiest to fit? I'm guessing if
someone really wanted to get in they can just smash the door.

[image: Inline images 1]
Does anyone have a picture of the glass side door handy?


On 12 February 2013 21:54, Ian Stratford <ginjaian at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hi all.
> I want to raise one of the points from the meeting last week, and get some
> action on it; that is, that member's access to the hackspace is limited by
> available keys.
> It is a completely ridiculous situation that members have to beg, cajole
> and borrow keys from, or arrange times that are convenient to, the small
> number of keyholders. I firmly believe that it is a very significant reason
> that we see members dropping out over time, and poor usage of the
> hackspace; members just find it embarrassing and inconvenient to have to
> rely on others being there.
> It seems unlikely that we'll ever get 40+ keys for the main door to BV
> Studios, notwithstanding the £25 deposit on each key. So that's a non
> starter.
> The glass door that opens directly into the hackspace seems to be our only
> option. Currently there are a limited number of people who have a key for
> this door, and as far as I can tell, the building management are not happy
> for everyone to have a key for this door in it's current state, as it can
> be left unlocked all too easily.
> There have been a number of suggestions about what we could do to make
> this door secure, while giving everyone a key. Again afaik any solution has
> to be approved by the building management, and fitted by their approved
> locksmith, so unfortunately we can't just hack our own solution
> (Arduino-controlled text message to open/key on a string behind letter box
> etc). I believe a quote for fitting an RFID lock was sought, and it came
> out at £1000+.
> While we COULD afford this, in light of any potential change/move of the
> hackspace, it seems a simpler solution should be sought, and quickly. Tarim
> has, on a number of occasions, suggested that we could get the locksmith to
> fit a lock to the door that automatically locks when the door shuts, and
> can't be over-ridden. Can we get a consensus that we check with management
> that this is acceptable, and get a quote for this? I think it very
> significant that we're going to be trying to attract new members, but have
> the same old "oh, by the way, you can't get in unless you're on friendly
> terms with the 'guardians' of the hackspace" conversation.
> Yes, there are probably some issues about how many keys we give out, and
> who to, but we are not going to be regarded as 'open and inclusive' without
> solving this most basic of issues.
> Ian
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