[hackspacebristol] Need some advice about installing network cable in a new house

David Stewart captain.vice at gmail.com
Sun Jun 30 10:16:42 UTC 2013

Thanks you for all the replies - I have a far better idea of what to do now.

And I promise I wont use a hammer in the installation.....

Scottish Dave

On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jon Dowling <chocojon at blueyonder.co.uk>wrote:

> Here's my 1.5p:
> In my house, I have 6 sockets in each of the downstairs rooms (3 rooms)
> and 4 sockets in each of the upstairs room (3 rooms). I've found that to be
> easily enough. Maybe a little overkill but it does mean lots of
> possibilities for connections.
> All of the cables (Cat 5e) lead to my "server room" which is actually the
> cupboard under the stairs. It houses the cable modem (on all the time), the
> router (also on all the time) and a GB switch to receive lots of the cables
> (also on all the time). There are two NAS boxes in there which are turned
> on when the demand arises (i.e. rarely). It has worked out pretty well for
> me so far. Quite a lot of my cabling goes behind the skirting boards
> (Victorian house) and occasionally under the floorboards. The router has
> wireless N so that the attic appliances can connect if needed to.
> Paul's idea is good and quite likely better than my original setup. I have
> partially moved to a GB switch in the room which connects to a wall socket
> which then goes down to the server cupboard. This way, there is only one
> cable that leads round the house to the cupboard rather than one per
> machine in a room. There have been a few issues with some of the cables and
> I think that a switch per room is a way to improve this situation of mine.
> A switch per floor allows for a better routing of cables and adaptability
> of the entire network.
> I know people who have used Powerline (or similar adapters). Bear in mind
> that their rating is absolute maximums over ideal wiring. For best
> transmission rates you do need to observe the following:
> - You are unlikely to get the maximum rate, even on a new build, but you
> can get close
> - You need to plug in the adapter into the ring main - going via a 4 gang
> socket (or similar) will reduce throughput.
> - Going between ring mains (i.e. floors or similar) is likely to reduce
> throughput.
> - Activating high power devices can cause you to drop the signal and
> re-negotiation would need to happen. Things like microwaves, kettles,
> dishwashers, washing machines, tumble driers, etc.
> - Neighbours electricity usage can affect throughput too...
> Having said all that, you can get fairly reliable connections and they are
> (nowadays) pretty easy to set up. The main issue is cost for decent kit.
> You might be able to find decent, cheap kit but I'd still lean towards
> cables.
> I'd recommend NAS boxes to be put in a place with relatively good
> ventilation if on 24/7 and in a room that isn't used too much (if you care
> about noise output). A switch per room means you can easily add more
> devices (get a bigger switch if you need more sockets) but does add to the
> cost. I would recommend two sockets per room (in case one fails), using
> trunking (so you can take more cables through if you need to) and Cat 6
> cables to be able to cope with high bandwidth applications. More details
> can be discussed later on, if you want.
> Jon
> On 29 June 2013 18:52, Patrick Neave <patrick at neavey.net> wrote:
>> Thats pretty much what I did when we had the extension built. I had cat5
>> routed to one socket in each room, they all meet in the garage in an 8-port
>> switch. I suggest using cat6e, but I am not sure there is any advantage in
>> running two cables, though why not I suppose. This gives Gb ethernet
>> throughout the house (great for backing up to the server and streaming
>> video from NAS to PS3) but as my broadband is only 60Mb it doesn’t make
>> much difference there. I still need WiFi for iPads, smart phones and for
>> the areas without a wired connection.
>> On 29 Jun 2013, at 15:03, Paul Maddox <yo at vacoloco.net> wrote:
>> Dave,
>>  Commonly things are done like this...
>> for each floor, run the cables from each room to a single point.
>> This single point would normally be a switch of some kind.
>> for each switch on each floor, you'd connect cables between them.  You
>> don't have to have a switch on each floor, you could just have
>> 'inter-floor' patching.
>> on one of the floors you'd have your server(s) and any access.
>> Much like this -
>> http://electronicdesign.com/site-files/electronicdesign.com/files/archive/electronicdesign.com/content/content/73617/73617_fig01_inline.gif
>> that can be a bit of overkill, but a lot depends on what your planned
>> usage is over the time you intend to be in the place.
>> Personally I'd run at least two CAT5s (or CAT6e if you can) to every room
>> in the house... typically I'd take 4 to each room.
>> Why so much? well, you'll always need "just one more" and the time it
>> takes to lay 4 cables is not much more than the time it takes to lay 1 or
>> 2.
>> For home use, you may get away with just running all the cables to a
>> single place, but it's far less flexible.. and where-ever you run them to
>> make sure you have adequate power, telephone point and ventilation
>> (electronics do like to breath).
>> Paul
>> On 29 June 2013 11:07, David Stewart <captain.vice at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Friends of mine are about to embark on construction of their own home
>>> and have asked me about the best way to install network cable around the
>>> house.
>>> My first rhought is to run a couple of cat 6 cables to each room through
>>> the walls, all leading back to a hub/switch somewhere central in the new
>>> house. Maybe get some wall plates to keep everything tidy.
>>> Is this a good approach ? I'd really welcome any suggestions on the best
>>> way to proceed (or what to avoid !)
>>> Thank you.
>>> Scottish Dave
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