[HacktionLab] rewiredstate

mle matthew at m6-it.org
Fri Aug 14 14:23:18 BST 2009


http://rewiredstate.org/young

this looks like fun

i can't go, but reckon that maybe someone else could/should is already
going

H

On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 13:20 +0100, Zoe wrote:
> yeh why not let's move straight onto web 3.0 and the mycelial media 
> networks that we really need to share info :-)
> 
> mp wrote:
> > planet-mail at aktivix.org wrote:
> >   
> >> hey,
> >>
> >> here's the intro guides to web2.0 stuff that i promised
> >>
> >> Participatory Learning And Action
> >> Volume 59, Number 1, June 2009
> >>
> >> Web 2.0 tools and approaches are radically changing the ways we  
> >> create, share, collaborate and publish digital information through the  
> >> Internet. Participatory Web 2.0 for development - or Web2forDev for  
> >> short - is a way of employing web services to intentionally improve  
> >> information-sharing and online collaboration for development.
> >>     
> >
> > There are rather split opinions on this Web 2.0 business.
> >
> > Consider these quotes:
> >
> > # 1:
> >
> > "Web 2.0: to hopeful entrepreneurs, it has the sweet smell of money
> > about it. To those of a more cynical disposition, the scent is more akin
> > to *ahem* dookie. Web founder Tim Berners-Lee has just weighed in on the
> > Web 2.0 question in a podcast interview for IBM, and he's not big on the
> > term. In fact, Sir Tim has some really big doubts that Web 2.0 is
> > different from Web 1.0 at all.
> >
> > When asked if it's fair to say that the difference between the two might
> > be fairly described as "Web 1.0 is about connecting computers, while Web
> > 2.0 is about connecting people," Berners-Lee replied, "Totally not. Web
> > 1.0 was all about connecting people. It was an interactive space, and I
> > think Web 2.0 is of course a piece of jargon, nobody even knows what it
> > means. If Web 2.0 for you is blogs and wikis, then that is people to
> > people. But that was what the Web was supposed to be all along. And in
> > fact, you know, this 'Web 2.0,' it means using the standards which have
> > been produced by all these people working on Web 1.0."" - from:
> > http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2006/09/7650.ars
> >
> > #2:
> >
> > "If Web 2.0 means anything at all, its meaning lies in the rationale of
> > venture capital. Web 2.0 represents the return of investment in internet
> > startups. After the dotcom bust (the real end of Web 1.0) those wooing
> > investment dollars needed a new rationale for investing in online
> > ventures. ‘Build it and they will come’, the dominant attitude of the
> > ’90s dotcom boom, along with the delusional ‘new economy’, was no longer
> > attractive after so many online ventures failed. Building infrastructure
> > and financing real capitalisation was no longer what investors were
> > looking for. Capturing value created by others, however, proved to be a
> > more attractive proposition." - from:
> > http://www.metamute.org/en/InfoEnclosure-2.0
> >
> > just for info,
> > -mp
> >
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