[HacktionLab] Debate about attribution and aggregation - visionontv example

[penguin]

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Hi

tl:tr - Guideline: Use creative commons with attribution licence, and
honour that licence when aggregating.

...

Is this not covered by the peeps that create the first instance of the
item posting with a creative commons license with the attribution clause:

"You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or
licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your
use of the work)."

So the 'manner' would include something akin to 'you must link to our
website at ...'

I don't know about youtube, but blip lets you specify a CC licence, and
also to have an account where you can link to your homepage.

If peeps do not follow the licence, get in touch and tell them to. ( see
that VisionOn do now have links to the Mule's home page, so I guess they
got the message).

G

PS - this message is under creative commons attribution licence. You may
repeat it, but any textual version must be followed up by a synopsis of
the message in the manner of modern dance.

On 25/02/11 11:36, m3shrom wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I wanted to talk about Attribution and Aggregation. I think that this is
> an interesting debate with the new possibilities of Cross Posting and
> aggregation coming up.
> 
> Put simply - can we come up with some informal guidelines to encouraging
> cross posting and aggregation without feeling like people have 'nicked
> our content'. 	
> 
> --an example
> 
> I think it's worth looking out for examples of this to guage how we
> feel. This is one example, sorry if this feels like I'm pointing the
> finger a bit here, I kind of am but just to work out if we can improve
> the situation. It could be anyone.
> 
> Mule has posted a video on YouTube and embeded it in their site.
> Vision on TV take the youtube feed and aggregate it into their site.
> You get to see it here -
> http://visionon.tv/web/grassroots/;jsessionid=7E18215E7E9D6E7ACC929FA6239E5BCB
> 
> Attribution -
> There is a link "view video in original page" - which takes you to
> YouTube - but this link doesn't work
> 
> Also you can click on the authour listed as manchestermule1 which takes
> you to this page -
> http://grassroots.mirocommunity.org/author/165
> Which again has no link to the Mule's website.
> 
> --//
> Clearly we can do better than this. Maybe we could work out some
> friendly guidelines, which we can send people to, so that people can
> think about these issues and be clear about how they want their work to
> be reused.
> 
> --///
> I know that this came up with the ***ymedia Aggregator survey that me
> and Mara did. This is out of date but it does communicate something.
> 
> 1) How should posts appear when linked to from the “aggregated
> newswire” of an ‘UK IMC aggregated frontpage’?
> 
> 12 	links to original posts, title only 	
> 6 	link with abstract and link to original post, title and abstract only 	
> 2 	link to page on the uk aggregated site with full content (as much as
> technically possible) and link to original post
> 
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