[HacktionLab] ogg camp -

Adelayde Skidmore adelayde at riseup.net
Mon Jun 20 19:55:07 UTC 2011


 On 20/06/2011 20:12, Ben Green wrote:
>
> Quoting Zoe Young <zoe at esemplastic.net>:
>
>> agree.. still haven't made it to barn camp because I have tired of
>> encountering this bias.. the only way, imho, for righteous techs to
>> get activists more tech savvy is to take the 'political' step of
>> seeing how the world looks from a non techy activist mindset.. and
>> then to take the several difficult steps required to cater to the
>> needs of people who do not feel or think the same way as techs
>> do...not easy o9r particularly fun all the time but necessary, really
>> really necessary,  recruiting help where needed, compromising where
>> possible, and making it EASY and FUN for busy people with different
>> skill sets and expertise from techies to use the better tech tools.
>> imho, the thinking should be in terms of opening up - similar to that
>> needed when considering how to ensure disabled access, LGBT
>> awareness, catering for vegans etc etc etc.
>> Cheers all
>> Zoe
>
>
> I think you've missed the point of Barncamp completely. The whole
> point is to provide an open and free framework for techies to include
> people in their processes, to provide pratical, inclusive, pragmatic
> ways of using tech in activism. It's about techies doing what
> non-techies want us to do - refrane from jargon, explain themselves
> patiently and generally understand the tech/non-tech interface.
> Barncamps is absolutely about doing everything you said above.
>
> We should distinguish completely from what our other hacktionlab
> gatherings do, which are talking shops for techies to talk tech in,
> doing the things we want to do.
>
> I'm sorry if you didn't come to Barncamp because you thought it was
> going to be more of the later.
+1

Zoe: I'm sorry too, as Ben says that's exactly how we've been trying to
pitch it and what we've been working towards.  We need more people like
you to come to make it even more like what you describe, it's a question
of being the change you want (BarnCamp) to be I think.
>
> Cheers,
> ==
> From Ben Green
>
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