[HacktionLab] i like feedin' fish

Wed Jun 22 09:41:44 UTC 2011

Barncamp was so good !!
I will keep saying that!

Yoss mentioned any suggestions for next so this is all this email is about:

I'd entertain having an area where people can stand like fish and chat
about something specifically whenever another fish comes along! Literally
a circle drawn on the floor or board saying the subject they can
constantly talk to them about either in that area or even by putting there
face on a board and saying 'always welcome to chat to me about xyz!'

You might have saw I put my face on a corner and lots of talk to me things
;)  As a proud leader of whatever we call this thing, and spreader of good
vibrations, I have no shame when it comes to these things!!

could include people who are want to find help in coding their project or
offer help or really crunch the mechanics with someone without possibly
interupting a workshop or even in preperation to a coming workshop. let
people busy themselves! I bet you would find less people smoking [boredom
is a common cause I truly believe from frequent research of it
personally!]

i was actively talking to people like "hi, this is my life kinda just
going round enlightening and being enlightened, or learning and being
taught... would you like to dance in any way you feel... especially since
I can mould well to whatever you have to offer?"

general camp fire chats are superb and I think it would be good for those
already or to encourage those willing and wanting to bash heads for
whatever reason [like engineering/emotional/social/techie etc] and have a
place to get it out and then move on, obviously not too many areas but
rolling anytime chats people could be visually picked out this way so
interaction is easier when busting at the gills about something...

i like feedin' fish :)

x

> On 6/21/11 5:32 PM, Ben Green wrote:
>
>> I think though Sy that you seem to saying that Free software is really
good, whereas in fact lots of it sucks. Lightworks is in Beta and not
even available for Linux. LibreOffice has a sucky spreadsheet
>> implementation. Crabgrass is a pain in the arse. Ubuntu is not stable
enough and Debian is not accessible enough. These are all opinions of
course, but I'm not the only one with them by a long shot.
>
> Given Sy's original list, I feel a little left out.  Hyperactive sucks
in lots of ways too. :)
>
> But I'm working on it right now and it'll suck a bit less by the end of
tonight. It used to suck a lot more, and with the help we've been
getting in UI design and all the usability contributions that people
have been making, plus the total redesign of the upload systems which is
targeted at making the upload story a lot nicer, its suck factor is
hopefully going down slowly but steadily.
>
> I am not put off too much by the discussion people have been having -
yeah a lot of our software sucks.  But jesus, you should see the shit
that people in FTSE 250 companies are routinely forced to work with. I
mean, most of it makes Debian Sarge look like an all-expenses-paid Club
Med vacation, where servants attend to your every need and you bask in
comfort and well-being.
>
> So, everybody take a few steps back and get some perspective maybe - is
our software steadily sucking less? Yes.  Could it get a lot better?
Also yes. Does it suck less than your average corporate system?
> Actually, I think yes.  But these are the boring questions.
>
> Are we doing as much as we can to make it suck less? I think we're
trying hard and doing alright. BarnCamp is a good shot at bridging a
whole lot of gaps and HacktionLab in general is great. I think that with
work, we steadily get better at bridging gaps and building capability.
Certainly the amount of skills available to our political movements are
way, way beyond what they were 5 years ago. HacktionLab has played a
role in that, along with some other initiatives.
>
> At the same time, I am really interested in having discussions about
ways we can still improve things.  To succeed at what we're doing, we
need to have technical and less-technical people collaborating on
projects - can we ditch the original negativity of this discussion and
concentrate on talking about that for a bit?
>
> At the risk of pissing everybody off further (NOT my intention), I'll
make the following formulation:
>
> Un-geeks, or sub-geeks, or geeks-in-a-state-of-becoming: no uber-geek
gonna jump on you for the next ten messages to this list.  What kinds of
barriers do you feel when it comes to working with those of us who are
geekier than yourselves? How could BarnCamp have been better? How could
we help you get involved in our awesome super-geeky projects? Is there
anything we're not doing that we should be doing?
>
> Greets,
> Yossarian
>
>
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from March 30 2011:
I am being active in minimising emailing people, specifically those who
use a providers that are revenue based (i.e. email providers that get
money from our usage in a million ways). We serve these revenue streams
that ultimately, one way or other down the chain, help things I want less
of in the world.
This isn't personal to you. The pressures and affects money has is what I
aim to stop. You might not see it but lots of people, directly or
indirectly calculate a lot more than you read. Something free from a
'business' (The activity of providing goods and services involving
financial and commercial and industrial aspects) will always cost you in
some other way.
It's my belief that reducing money and personally not giving the game of
good life away to other in this way will help me feel better and be
better. I also believe in the long term everyone benefits though I
definitely am doing it for myself first (as I believe everyone should).

We did live without Internet once right?