[HacktionLab] funding for ICTS for freedom of expression - call for proposals

[penguin]

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Hi Tom

I can see a lot stronger case for Aptivate putting in a proposal
compared to HacktionLab (I work as an institutional fundraiser for
Oxfam (although mostly on UK funding), so I know a bit about what I'm
talking about - doesn’t mean I'm right)

Given the current structure of HacktionLab, I'd be very opposed to an
application. It would probably kill the group. But other groups
involved with HL might be more plausible candidates.

On the ethics on fundraising and dirty money, well I'm no angel. And
anybody that has claimed to find a clean source of money clearly
doesn't understand capitalism.

On 12/09/12 17:38, Tom Lord wrote:
> On 12/09/12 17:21, penguin wrote:
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>> Ola
>> 
>> I'm not aware of any HacktionLab project that involves
>> international development or projects in the Global South / Third
>> World / Majority World / Cheap places to go on holiday *
> 
> I was thinking of applying for a project we're working on at the
> moment and ignoring the fact that it's universally applicable
> rather than aimed at any one country, and seeing if it got
> funded... maybe a long shot tho.
> 
>> And what would people think about taking government money? Let
>> alone from a government that hounded pirate bay and has ongoing
>> issues with that guy ... what's his name? You know, the one that
>> did (or didn't) do that thing. Blond Australian chappie.
> 
> Yeah, maybe Wikileaks should apply :-)
> 
> Personally I'd be happy to take public funds for pushing forward 
> independent systems to strengthen civil society and challenge 
> governments, as long as funders didn't get any lasting control. But
> then I'm biased because my org works in international development
> stuff and we get paid :-)
> 
> We have an intern here, who we might not be able to afford to keep
> after this month, who is doing good work on an open source system
> we're writing to support consensus decision making ( 
> http://www.aptivate.org/econsensus - demoed it last barncamp and
> it's come on since!)
> 
> I'd love a pot of cash to help him out and keep the project lively
> for the next couple of months.
> 
> I think governments are basically evil yet a bit contradictory; in
> that some small bits of them want to be nice while the other hand
> isn't looking, and better that public money goes to support nice
> things and people working on nice things, rather than being saved
> for missiles or something. I mean, while I was joking, this pot of
> money could have been aimed at Wikileaks; this part of the
> government is probably not at all aligned in its doings with the
> part that wants to grab Assange.
> 
> Totally understand if someone didn't want to do that, tho. Hard to
> find an untainted source of chunks of money in this world. I bet
> even Lush do something naughty!
> 
> cheers, Tom.
> 
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