[HacktionLab] Peace news camp advice

[U]

Hey

Thanks for your all your advice. It sounds like we should be okay with the
3G (maybe even 4G) option as a backup whilst primarily using a long
ethernet cable for the event. We'll mostly be using it to invite speakers
via video-conferencing and probably won't offer WiFi to participants.

Will definitely keep the wireless options in mind too.

Thanks again


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Andy S <andys at bristolwireless.net> wrote:

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> On 6 May 2013 21:00, gzikskud <gzikskud at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi
>>
>> long ethernet can be an issue, and yes depending on the weather you will
>> need to do something about the cable, also the maximum length of the cable
>> according to the book is 100 meters. If that is within reach you need to
>> think how you are going to run the cable, and stop people stamping all over
>> it, tripping over etc..
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>> Something to consider is that some ISP's can be a bit iffy about sharing
>> connections, and so if your event is likely to generate interest then you
>> may find the ISP is pressured into doing something…
>>
>> So I would plan on both options. get an unlocked 3G dongle and a section
>> of sims (giffgaff, 3, etc.) and confirm which one gives you the best
>> coverage before buying top ups.
>>
>> Mark
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>> On 6 May 2013, at 18:00, U wrote:
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>> > Hey
>> >
>> > Thanks so much for your offer. We spoke to the owners of the house
>> nearby and they've said we can use their broadband. I'm thinking the
>> easiest / most logical thing would be to run an (long) ethernet cable into
>> the field. Do you know if there would be any issues with this, would it
>> need weatherproofing? Plastic piping? It's only for a few days.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Usayd
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Jim Dog <theinnercityhippy at riseup.net>
>> wrote:
>> > Hey
>> >
>> > Tagging onto the broadband line is generally going to be best (wired if
>> possible) but if you end up going down the 3g route, we have a 3g Yagi
>> antenna (a bit like a tv antenna) in Bradford that I'm sure you could use.
>> >
>> > It attaches onto a 3g dongle and when aimed at the nearest mobile
>> antenna, boosts the signal.
>> >
>> > JD
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Reply message -----
>> > From: "U" <us2cool at gmail.com>
>> > To: <hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org>
>> > Subject: [HacktionLab] Peace news camp advice
>> > Date: Sat, May 4, 2013 13:01
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey all
>> >
>> > I'm helping to organise the Peace news summer camp (which you should
>> check out :)) and I thought i'd ask if you guys could give me some tips.
>> >
>> > We are camping out in a field in 'Diss' near Norfolk. We might be able
>> to get access to a broadband line from a nearby B&B otherwise we might have
>> to use 3G or something else.
>> >
>> > Does anyone have advice on:
>> >
>> > a) How best to bring broadband into a field from a nearby house (i.e.
>> wireless repeaters, ethernet etc)
>> >
>> > b) What to do if we can't get a hard line, are there any good solutions
>> for boosting 3G signals, would 4G suffice for video conferencing?
>> >
>> > Really appreciate any advice and if you have any questions about the
>> event feel free to ask :)
>> >
>> > Much appreciated
>> > Usayd
>> >
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> As mentioned above, the easiest is hooking into nearby broadband, which is
> what we do each year at Barn Camp without issue, and yes, ~100m is the
> limit before needing a switch (acting as a powered powered booster) and
> you'd need to be careful about the routing of the cable, ideally use
> outdoor Cat5 which is a bit tougher (although we haven't needed to for a
> short term event).
>
> Using a wireless link as an alternative is also feasible (if there is line
> of sight) and there is plenty of kit to do the job, both new or hacked:
>
> If you have budget; we have used Ubiquiti devices (Nanostation and
> similar) to create a link to remote location or, if there is less budget
> and you have someone fairly tech savvy, you could flash a pair of Linksys
> WRT54g routers with Gargoyle Router or OpenWRT and configure as a wireless
> bridge.
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> Using 3g networks as primary connection is doable, but very dependant on
> signal in the area and usage, there are specific 'Mifi' devices you can
> plug a SIM into and away you go, or alternatively you could try an ad-hoc
> wireless 'mesh' using software such as Open-Garden (opengarden.com) which
> can connect an internet connected computer (could simply be tethered to 3g)
> to share the connection wirelessly via mesh with nearby devices.
>
> Of course any of these ideas soon fall apart when someone tries to
> download a film using Bit Torrent or stream TV etc. so you should be clear
> about acceptable use at the event, you will find that with sensible usage
> the bandwidth consumed can be surprisingly low and not necessarily likely
> to attract unwanted attention, of course will depend on the supplier..
>
> A
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