[HacktionLab] Facebook exodus & where are people going

[Paula Graham]

:D Lots of FB alternatives over the years have offered event calendars, the issue is really about reach. Most people don't trust self organised provision and really don't want to understand multiple domains or keys or debates on encryption protocols and software licensing etc. Therefore alternatives never reach popular 'critical mass'. If your key issue is reach then corporate provision will always work best for you. 

Personally, I use meetup for events reach, threema and signal for personal chat, and mastodon for knowing what my friends had for dinner :D

I'm deleting FB because, however popular, it's just too creepy for my taste. 

Paula



On 26 March 2018 11:02:13 BST, sean <seankenny at gmail.com> wrote:
>Shame I can't Like Ben's post :)
>
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2018, 11:58 Ben Green, <ben at bristolwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> this post reads "Facebook exodus", but then the responses are all
>> about either micro blogging or personal messaging platforms. I now
>> have to have Signal, Telegram, Facebook Messenger, IRC client, SMS,
>> Whatsapp and so on all installed on my phone/computer so that I can
>> communicate with groups who have a particular preference. Frankly I
>> don't need any more this thread has now given me another 8 platforms
>> to look at isn't really helpful.
>>
>> Those services, micro blogging and personal messaging, are not the
>> reason Facebook has become ubiquitous. It's the extended suite of
>> services. For me, the event calendaring is the most useful part of
>> facebook. I can contact groups who I know have signed up as being
>> interested in an event, and see the events I've signed up for in
>> calendar form. Other people might have different needs.
>>
>> We aren't going to stop Facebook with more and more and more micro
>> blog/personal messenger platforms. I don't need more ways of people
>> contacting me and I don't need more pictures of peoples meals. There
>> needs to be an effort to find the useful and societaly enriching
>parts
>> of Facebook and to have our own empowering services which take the
>> best parts of the proprietary platforms and give them choice,
>security
>> and privacy.
>>
>>
>> 2p,
>> Cheers,
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> Quoting ekes <ekes at aktivix.org>:
>>
>> > On 26/03/18 11:30, Paula Graham wrote:
>> >> Nearest thing to whatsapp would be telegram but purists get sniffy
>> >> about encryption protocols and it doesn't encrypt by default.
>> >
>> > Think the common alternative is Signal - lots of people offer me
>their
>> > Signal number these days.
>> >
>> > My preference, as it doesn't need a telephone number, will work on
>all
>> > devices without jumping through hoops, and is generally more
>flexible
>> > regarding encrypted/not encrypted/groups/chats/bridging to other
>> > networks etc. is riot/matrix:
>> >
>> > https://chat.disroot.org/ is my suggested instance (although I
>actually
>> > use https://chat.weho.st - they all federate)
>> > https://about.riot.im/ for apps to download.
>> >
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