[HacktionLab] Alternatives to big tech for personal use?

[Garcon du Monde]

i already sent this recently so not sure if it was missed:

 * https://degooglisons-internet.org/en/

i think there is everything you might want here, but there's also a
listing of alternatives for some additional services:

 * https://alt.framasoft.org/en/

solidarity,

	--gdm
	
On Sat, Dec 27, 2025 at 02:47:57PM +0000, brentc wrote:
> Thanks all!
> 
> Yes, riseup is good and generally well regarded. It doesn't do full cloud
> drive and online office suite though afaik.
> 
> I also want non-US for efficiency/sustainability (as well as more political
> reasons)- makes technical sense to use a UK/EU location if I'm based in that
> area.
> 
> Proton mail does seem ok, but I get the impression their politics are more
> libertarian than liberal? E.g. CEO making statements apparently a bit
> republican supporting. I'd be curious as to others' thoughts here? Tricky
> area. I would also need to figure out how to calm down their adverts for
> themselves on their UI.
> 
> Mailbox.org might be worth a spin.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> On 26/12/2025 17:58, Patrice Riemens wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > Being on puscii, which is a very small, hackers run ISP, I do not use riseup, but many friends are - to their full satisfaction. It's a bit the 'Isp of records' ;-) in some demographies. That is is US- based with all the consequences does not seem to be a drawback. But if you are paranoid about anything US related (aren't we all? ;-) I always advise Sswitzerland-based protonmail - in conjunction with an own mailer, type Thunderbird (here's a piece of 'do as I say, not as I do advice  ;-) Protonmail free has a rather limited storage.
> > 
> > Cheers to all & best wishes for a rather anxiogenous 2026!
> > p+2D!
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Clemson" <Chris.Clemson at GoGreenIT.net>
> > To: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
> > Sent: Friday, 26 December, 2025 15:23:55
> > Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Alternatives to big tech for personal use?
> > 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Have you tried https://riseup.net/?
> > 
> > I've not used it, but it has been around for a while.
> > 
> > There's a list of disroot-like services here, which might help:
> > https://alternativeto.net/software/disroot/
> > 
> > Let us know if you try any of them.
> > 
> > On 24/12/2025 11:03, brentc wrote:
> > > Hello
> > > 
> > > I'd love to find something like Google suite that isn't Google. I use
> > > alternatives for more activist stuff but keep coming back to Google
> > > for general use. Any (constructive) thoughts or pointers?
> > > 
> > > I guess looking for something in between weak activist offerings and
> > > big tech. If something like a non-profit non-US Mozilla offered an
> > > awesome product, that would be lovely, but I don't see it.
> > > 
> > > Specifically, for me, I need the typical 'personal productivity'
> > > services- email, todo lists, calendars, drive/docs/sheets with decent
> > > editing and features, and sharing (with people who don't have an
> > > account). I'd rather not use multiple services, want uptime and
> > > backups handled, and if it's green hosted and a non-profit oriented,
> > > bonus. It should probably be UK/EU region. I don't want to host my own
> > > stuff. I'll pay for the right thing. Honestly, for personal use, I
> > > probably want some balance of encryption/security with features,
> > > noting I'll have to trust the provider anyway.
> > > 
> > > I've tried disroot. It's quite good to be fair, but still limited
> > > feature-wise, and more worryingly, couldn't get issues sorted with
> > > support (which is a common thing with smaller outfits in my
> > > experience, that I don't want to deal with). I don't like protonmail.
> > > There's mailbox.org but tradeoffs are they're a company albeit seem
> > > alright, and their website gives me the creeps.
> > > 
> > > Maybe I ask for the currently impossible.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Brent
> > > 
> > > 
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