[HacktionLab] Alternatives to big tech for personal use?

[brentc]

Hi

Yes, thanks. Framasoft does look useful - a lot is in french which I 
don't speak tho.

Having had a bit more of a look at Proton Mail, I think my impression of 
their politics was off- they seem ok and the recent headlines probably 
overblown.

b

On 31/12/2025 12:30, Garcon du Monde wrote:
> i already sent this recently so not sure if it was missed:
>
>   * https://degooglisons-internet.org/en/
>
> i think there is everything you might want here, but there's also a
> listing of alternatives for some additional services:
>
>   * https://alt.framasoft.org/en/
>
> solidarity,
>
> 	--gdm
> 	
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2025 at 02:47:57PM +0000, brentc wrote:
>> Thanks all!
>>
>> Yes, riseup is good and generally well regarded. It doesn't do full cloud
>> drive and online office suite though afaik.
>>
>> I also want non-US for efficiency/sustainability (as well as more political
>> reasons)- makes technical sense to use a UK/EU location if I'm based in that
>> area.
>>
>> Proton mail does seem ok, but I get the impression their politics are more
>> libertarian than liberal? E.g. CEO making statements apparently a bit
>> republican supporting. I'd be curious as to others' thoughts here? Tricky
>> area. I would also need to figure out how to calm down their adverts for
>> themselves on their UI.
>>
>> Mailbox.org might be worth a spin.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On 26/12/2025 17:58, Patrice Riemens wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Being on puscii, which is a very small, hackers run ISP, I do not use riseup, but many friends are - to their full satisfaction. It's a bit the 'Isp of records' ;-) in some demographies. That is is US- based with all the consequences does not seem to be a drawback. But if you are paranoid about anything US related (aren't we all? ;-) I always advise Sswitzerland-based protonmail - in conjunction with an own mailer, type Thunderbird (here's a piece of 'do as I say, not as I do advice  ;-) Protonmail free has a rather limited storage.
>>>
>>> Cheers to all & best wishes for a rather anxiogenous 2026!
>>> p+2D!
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chris Clemson" <Chris.Clemson at GoGreenIT.net>
>>> To: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
>>> Sent: Friday, 26 December, 2025 15:23:55
>>> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Alternatives to big tech for personal use?
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Have you tried https://riseup.net/?
>>>
>>> I've not used it, but it has been around for a while.
>>>
>>> There's a list of disroot-like services here, which might help:
>>> https://alternativeto.net/software/disroot/
>>>
>>> Let us know if you try any of them.
>>>
>>> On 24/12/2025 11:03, brentc wrote:
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to find something like Google suite that isn't Google. I use
>>>> alternatives for more activist stuff but keep coming back to Google
>>>> for general use. Any (constructive) thoughts or pointers?
>>>>
>>>> I guess looking for something in between weak activist offerings and
>>>> big tech. If something like a non-profit non-US Mozilla offered an
>>>> awesome product, that would be lovely, but I don't see it.
>>>>
>>>> Specifically, for me, I need the typical 'personal productivity'
>>>> services- email, todo lists, calendars, drive/docs/sheets with decent
>>>> editing and features, and sharing (with people who don't have an
>>>> account). I'd rather not use multiple services, want uptime and
>>>> backups handled, and if it's green hosted and a non-profit oriented,
>>>> bonus. It should probably be UK/EU region. I don't want to host my own
>>>> stuff. I'll pay for the right thing. Honestly, for personal use, I
>>>> probably want some balance of encryption/security with features,
>>>> noting I'll have to trust the provider anyway.
>>>>
>>>> I've tried disroot. It's quite good to be fair, but still limited
>>>> feature-wise, and more worryingly, couldn't get issues sorted with
>>>> support (which is a common thing with smaller outfits in my
>>>> experience, that I don't want to deal with). I don't like protonmail.
>>>> There's mailbox.org but tradeoffs are they're a company albeit seem
>>>> alright, and their website gives me the creeps.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I ask for the currently impossible.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Brent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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