[HacktionLab] Euria and Ecisa (was: Alternatives to big tech for personal use?

[Patrice Riemens]

Forgot to mention: it was yet another Infomaniak thingie ... 


From: "Patrice Riemens" <patrice at puscii.nl> 
To: "Yussi Divnal" <uc.dev.null at gmail.com> 
Cc: "m3shrom" <m3shrom at riseup.net>, hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org 
Sent: Friday, 6 March, 2026 11:08:20 
Subject: Re: Euria and Ecisa (was: [HacktionLab] Alternatives to big tech for personal use? 

Hi All, 

Very much worth Deeol-ing: 

https://no-flux.beaude.net/2026/03/04/inside-infomaniak-1-euria-lia-suisse-ethique-et-souveraine-qui-protege-vos-donnees-et-la-planete/ 

And while we are at it, maybe give 

https://www.ecosia.org/ 

a try - did anyone already? 

Cheerio, p+2D! 


From: "Yussi Divnal" <uc.dev.null at gmail.com> 
To: "m3shrom" <m3shrom at riseup.net> 
Cc: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 4 March, 2026 21:12:18 
Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Alternatives to big tech for personal use? 

I haven't tried it, 
but k suite, the would-be European competition for Microsoft might be worth looking at. 
https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite 

I used proton mail and cryptpad, both are pretty decent IMO. 

On Wed, 25 Feb 2026 at 10:15, m3shrom < m3shrom at riseup.net > wrote: 



On 03/01/2026 10:52, brentc wrote: 
> 
> Having had a bit more of a look at Proton Mail, I think my impression 
> of their politics was off- they seem ok and the recent headlines 
> probably overblown. 

Is this about right as a summary? 

So it seems like this is a really easy and free option with Proton 
Mail's google docs equivalent which seems really easy to get started with. 

A harder / hardest option is doing a self hosted Next Cloud or similar 
services. 

Are there any middle options that are vaguely ethical that people would 
suggest? Like a hosted/managed Next Cloud as part of a package? Having 
hosted email lists would also be good. 

Nice one 
Mick 


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