<div dir="ltr"><div>I was there for the whole of the week helping out with setup and during the event, and had a really good time. I was heavily involved in the set up of EMF last year, which was a similar event in england, so I know some of the challenges in setting up an event like this, and even at barncamp, although its a much smaller event, theres still a huge ammount of work that has to go into it, so I have huge respect for the organisers of OHM.<br>
<br><br></div><div>I spoke with Koen Martens, who is one of the lead organisers for OHM and its clear that the festival would not go ahead without a lot of sponsorship, so its a difficult position to be put in. Personally I would't have accepted that sponsorship, but I can see the reasons for it, and as I wasn't putting the work in to make it happen, it wasn't my decision. <br>
<br>As long as they don't have influence over the program and camp in general, which they didn't, they are easy to ignore . OHM and the duch hacker camps have never been overtly radical, they are more radical in the general nature of the community, and have always accepted other points of view, even from those on the other side of the security fence, as long as they come with an attitude of wanting to engage with the community and learn from us.<br>
<br></div><div>The other controversy was with the police presence at OHM. Originally the police wanted to set up a village in order to identify themselves and talk to hackers. This was eventually turned down, although we know there are police at OHM, so that shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. I think the danger was of them trying to recruit, so them having a village was probably a bad idea, and they were asked to come as themselves or not at all, which i think is inkeeping with the spirit of the event.<br>
<br></div><div>What I found to be totally disgusting was the noisy square village asking several of the main organisers of the camp not to come to the events at their area because they weren't welcome due to these controversies. I think that showed a total lack of grattitude for putting on the camp and a total disregard for the spirit of the camp, and how the hacker community operates. <br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Patrice Riemens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:patrice@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">patrice@xs4all.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi People,<br>
<br>
If any of you were at <a href="https://ohm2013.org" target="_blank">https://ohm2013.org</a>, I'd be most curious to hear<br>
about yr experience. I was there only for one day on Friday and enjoyed it<br>
- socially, and for one day. There have been some heavy controversies both<br>
before as during the event regarding the role of ITsecurity companies (one<br>
of which was 'golden' sponsor) and the place of hackers in a situation of<br>
total surveillance & control in general. The outcome is largely unclear.<br>
<br>
Cheers to you all,<br>
patriziio & Diiiinooos!<br>
<br>
<br>
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