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<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>I guess another offer of hosting is not needed maybe, but Marcus
and I am more than happy to set it up and host on XtreamLab for
free. Can sort that side of it out and given them an out of the
box Wordpress, Drupal, or other, CMS solution. But neither of us
have the time and the skills for taking them through the design
and planning of content side of things, so if someone is up for
doing this side of it, then we can work with them. We host on
Bytemark in the UK and have a pretty fast and beefy server, but I
wouldn't recommend it for anyone looking for more privacy or any
kind of cross-border freedom of speech protection; the offers from
n23, Mayfirst, etc are better for that. Can also provide some
email with that.</p>
<p>Personally I'm also up for helping n23 set it up, but again, web
site design, layout, and content are not really my thing; I'm more
of a devops type ;)<br>
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<p>Anyway, do pass the offer on, along with the others.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Mike.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 25/07/2017 a les 15:24, Garcon du
Monde ha escrit:<br>
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<pre wrap="">hi charlie,
i'm very happy to help coordinate a hosting solution (it can go on n23,
a dedicated webserver, whatever), and note that several others on this
list have suggested one or other of the solutions i may be involved
in. however, i think the bigger challenge is to find someone who has
time to help set up such a website and / or tool... i may have some
links, but it would take a little while to follow through - what sort of
timescale might be involved for getting this up and running (obviously,
i recognise the sooner the better, but it might be wiser to take a few
weeks and have a solid basis rather than a rushed job over a few days)?
anyway, please feel free to forward my email on to whoever...
solidarity,
--gdm
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 04:12:26PM +0100, Charlie Harvey wrote:
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Thought that there might be some people on the list who were up for
helping relatives of people killed at Grenfall Tower setting up their
website (or any of the other stuff that is mentioned).
Cheers,
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Subject: could I ask you advice please?
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:36:38 +0100
From: George Monbiot <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:george@monbiot.info"><george@monbiot.info></a>
To: 'Dan Raymond-Barker' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:danrb@newint.org"><danrb@newint.org></a>
Hi Dan,
I hope you are very well. I wonder whether I might be able to ask you
for some advice.
I’ve begun working with two of the relatives of the victims of the
Grenfell Tower disaster, Nazanin and Shahrok Aghlani, who lost their
mother and aunt in the fire, to assist their search for justice.
They are remarkable people. Nazanin is highly articulate, clear and
determined. Here’s a clip of her on Newsnight:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eANrDnyecSw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eANrDnyecSw</a>
It has become clear to her that none of the existing groups are
providing either representation to the bereaved families or an effective
voice in holding the public inquiry, the judicial process and other
forms of official response to account. She feels strongly (and I agree)
that the bereaved families need their own representation, that ensures
their concerns are not muddled up with other issues, and that their
voices are heard in the crucial forums and the media, under the
principle of Nothing About Us Without Us.
Below is the brief description she’s drafted of the objectives of this
organisation, that she proposes to call the *Grenfell Bereaved Families
Association*.
Obviously, she can’t take all this on by herself. She needs all the help
she can get. She needs organisational and media assistance and other
forms of support. I have offered to try to find the people who can help.
But – as I spend most of my time sitting at home reading and writing –
my first-hand contacts are quite limited.
So I wonder whether you might be able to advise me on people I could
approach who could help her with:
1. setting up a website and other forms of public visibility
2. media work and
3. organisation building.
What we are looking for are energetic people who can give some of their
time for free and are prepared to keep helping out when needed over the
next few years, during what is likely to be a major and sometimes
bruising search for justice.
Any thoughts and contacts you have would be invaluable.
Thanks so much.
See you soon I hope.
All the best, George
From Nazanin:
Objectives of the Grenfell Bereaved Families Association:
* Our main aim will be to ensure that the people we have lost in this
tragedy are not forgotten about, and our fight for justice is not
over before it has even begun. We will do whatever we can to ensure
that the high price we bereaved families have paid in this tragedy
is not simply forgotten about. Other survivor and community campaign
groups are voicing out the problems which the survivors and the rest
of the community are facing, and rightly so! However we as the
bereaved families must also have a loud and clear voice and to do
this we must come together and fight in solidarity
* We will put pressure on the progress of the public inquiry and the
police criminal investigation by acting as a watchdog. We can use
independent bodies to comment on procedures and events (that of the
police, the LFB, the council, the contracting companies… etc).
* Carefully use our united voice through media to put pressure and
bring awareness where lawyer’s hands are tied. We will have 2-3
articulate media spoke persons (from the bereaved families) who will
with great dignity and care reach to the public and organizations
through media when necessary.
* Use our power and unity to challenge decisions and reject them where
suitable. For example we agree between ourselves what we want the
scope of the public inquiry to cover and if it does not meet this,
together we can distinguish it as illegitimate and reject it.
* We can make our own record of what the witnesses have seen on the
night of the tragedy and use that to fight propaganda. For example
the LBF is broadcasting a three-part documentary about their work,
which also covers the tragedy at Grenfell Tower. My brother and I
have met many eyewitnesses over the past 5 weeks who have stories to
tell about the response and actions of the LFB that night, which I’m
sure will not be included in this ‘documentary’. As an association
we can film/document these witness stories with a aim to broadcast
on TV or spread on social media, as a response and challenge to the
documentary by LBF.
* For those families who will not get any remains of their loved ones
back, we can come to a decision together as to what we want to do in
terms of burial of ashes.
* Be involved and have a strong word in what we as a association agree
the future of the site should be. (i.e a memorial).
--
Charlie Harvey
IT Director
New Internationalist
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