<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="scrollbar-width: thin; scrollbar-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35) rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Hey Ben,</span><br style="scrollbar-width: thin; scrollbar-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35) rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="scrollbar-width: thin; scrollbar-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35) rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="scrollbar-width: thin; scrollbar-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35) rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I think you make good point about the Palestine Action issue, in particular, and the related article.</span><br style="scrollbar-width: thin; scrollbar-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35) rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="scrollbar-width: thin; scrollbar-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35) rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="scrollbar-width: thin; scrollbar-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35) rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">My concern is not just about the brazen proscription of Palestine Action, but also stuff like the repercussions of the Online Safety Act (people now being asked for an ID or face scan in order to access websites) and the actions of Trump in the US (with similar movements rising in popularity in the UK also).<br></span><br>As a result of all of these things (and more) I am personally am feeling very concerned about the future of the open web.<br><br>And while people might not feel concerned, I think it is concerned that political activists are currently still using platforms like Reddit, Discord or Bluesky for their online communications. All three of those platforms are now doing ID/face scan checks to block off certain content that is being shared.<br><br>I'm also concerned that bad information will lead people towards using the wrong tools to protect their privacy. I myself am unsure about which tools are okay and which aren't.<br><br>I dunno. Am I making more sense with my concerns now?<br><br>In solidarity,<br>Ben X<br><br><br><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div>
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On Sunday, 5 October 2025 at 22:18, Ben Green <ben@bristolwireless.net> wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi,<br>
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I believe this has nothing to do with Free Speech which as the
article claims. It's poor journalism to pull the events in that
category I think. Right to protest, right to gather peaceably are
the more visible issues. The problem is here that Palestine Action
are a proscribed organisation. Once an organisation is proscribed,
they cannot legally be promoted. It seems like a good idea to have
certain groups proscribed, given the paradox of tolerance.</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">We then come to the underlying problem
that there's no substantial justification for the proscription of
Palestine Action. That's the thing we should be taking on I
believe. The other groups proscribed in July 2025 were the
ultranationalist Russian Imperial Movement and white supremacist
Maniacs Murder Cult, strange company for some people with red
paint and some caring elders. As I mentioned at lunch, this seems
particularly stark now the UN has confirmed it considered Israel
actively genocidal. Does anyone know what measures are being taken
to deal with this?</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I think, well know for sure really, if
there's a real problem with activist group communication there's
plenty of people who'll tell me/us, we've had and publicised them.
I feel we're OK on that point.<br>
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I like Mark's suggestions. With regard to the TOR links: Do we
have any kind of gateway that could take an HTTPS site and pipe to
within TOR?</div>
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Cheers,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/5/25 19:24, ben wrote:<br>
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<div>Thanks for a great weekend with much beautiful food for
thought and food for eating.</div>
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<div>During brunch I realised there was a topic I forgot to
add that I thought was important to talk about.</div>
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<div>In response to crack downs on free speech in the
UK (e.g. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-police-get-new-powers-after-latest-pro-palestinian-protest-2025-10-05/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-police-get-new-powers-after-latest-pro-palestinian-protest-2025-10-05/</a>
), the need for alternative secure media channels is gonna
be more vital than ever.<br>
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<div>A refresh on the current best (and preferably
accessible) practices for doing this would be good.</div>
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<div>Making folks can chime on on the list with their
thoughts.</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Ben X</div>
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