<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>I self-host nextcloud AIO it does everything you described (apart from mail) on a EU-based VPS. </div><div><br></div><div>I also use <a href="http://mailbox.org" target="_blank">mailbox.org</a> but just for email (PGP encrypted). </div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 27, 2025 at 2:48 PM brentc <<a href="mailto:brentc@riseup.net">brentc@riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Thanks all!<br>
<br>
Yes, riseup is good and generally well regarded. It doesn't do full <br>
cloud drive and online office suite though afaik.<br>
<br>
I also want non-US for efficiency/sustainability (as well as more <br>
political reasons)- makes technical sense to use a UK/EU location if I'm <br>
based in that area.<br>
<br>
Proton mail does seem ok, but I get the impression their politics are <br>
more libertarian than liberal? E.g. CEO making statements apparently a <br>
bit republican supporting. I'd be curious as to others' thoughts here? <br>
Tricky area. I would also need to figure out how to calm down their <br>
adverts for themselves on their UI.<br>
<br>
Mailbox.org might be worth a spin.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
On 26/12/2025 17:58, Patrice Riemens wrote:<br>
> Hi All,<br>
><br>
> Being on puscii, which is a very small, hackers run ISP, I do not use riseup, but many friends are - to their full satisfaction. It's a bit the 'Isp of records' ;-) in some demographies. That is is US- based with all the consequences does not seem to be a drawback. But if you are paranoid about anything US related (aren't we all? ;-) I always advise Sswitzerland-based protonmail - in conjunction with an own mailer, type Thunderbird (here's a piece of 'do as I say, not as I do advice ;-) Protonmail free has a rather limited storage.<br>
><br>
> Cheers to all & best wishes for a rather anxiogenous 2026!<br>
> p+2D!<br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Chris Clemson" <Chris.Clemson@GoGreenIT.net><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:hacktionlab@lists.aktivix.org" target="_blank">hacktionlab@lists.aktivix.org</a><br>
> Sent: Friday, 26 December, 2025 15:23:55<br>
> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Alternatives to big tech for personal use?<br>
><br>
> Hi!<br>
><br>
> Have you tried <a href="https://riseup.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://riseup.net/</a>?<br>
><br>
> I've not used it, but it has been around for a while.<br>
><br>
> There's a list of disroot-like services here, which might help:<br>
> <a href="https://alternativeto.net/software/disroot/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://alternativeto.net/software/disroot/</a><br>
><br>
> Let us know if you try any of them.<br>
><br>
> On 24/12/2025 11:03, brentc wrote:<br>
>> Hello<br>
>><br>
>> I'd love to find something like Google suite that isn't Google. I use<br>
>> alternatives for more activist stuff but keep coming back to Google<br>
>> for general use. Any (constructive) thoughts or pointers?<br>
>><br>
>> I guess looking for something in between weak activist offerings and<br>
>> big tech. If something like a non-profit non-US Mozilla offered an<br>
>> awesome product, that would be lovely, but I don't see it.<br>
>><br>
>> Specifically, for me, I need the typical 'personal productivity'<br>
>> services- email, todo lists, calendars, drive/docs/sheets with decent<br>
>> editing and features, and sharing (with people who don't have an<br>
>> account). I'd rather not use multiple services, want uptime and<br>
>> backups handled, and if it's green hosted and a non-profit oriented,<br>
>> bonus. It should probably be UK/EU region. I don't want to host my own<br>
>> stuff. I'll pay for the right thing. Honestly, for personal use, I<br>
>> probably want some balance of encryption/security with features,<br>
>> noting I'll have to trust the provider anyway.<br>
>><br>
>> I've tried disroot. It's quite good to be fair, but still limited<br>
>> feature-wise, and more worryingly, couldn't get issues sorted with<br>
>> support (which is a common thing with smaller outfits in my<br>
>> experience, that I don't want to deal with). I don't like protonmail.<br>
>> There's <a href="http://mailbox.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mailbox.org</a> but tradeoffs are they're a company albeit seem<br>
>> alright, and their website gives me the creeps.<br>
>><br>
>> Maybe I ask for the currently impossible.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>><br>
>> Brent<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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