<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi All,</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Very much worth Deeol-ing:</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><a href="https://no-flux.beaude.net/2026/03/04/inside-infomaniak-1-euria-lia-suisse-ethique-et-souveraine-qui-protege-vos-donnees-et-la-planete/">https://no-flux.beaude.net/2026/03/04/inside-infomaniak-1-euria-lia-suisse-ethique-et-souveraine-qui-protege-vos-donnees-et-la-planete/</a></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>And while we are at it, maybe give </div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><a href="https://www.ecosia.org/">https://www.ecosia.org/</a></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>a try - did anyone already?</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Cheerio, p+2D!</div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Yussi Divnal" <uc.dev.null@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"m3shrom" <m3shrom@riseup.net><br><b>Cc: </b>hacktionlab@lists.aktivix.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, 4 March, 2026 21:12:18<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [HacktionLab] Alternatives to big tech for personal use?<br></div><br><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>I haven't tried it, <br>but k suite, the would-be European competition for Microsoft might be worth looking at.<br><a href="https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite" target="_blank">https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite</a><br><br></div>I used proton mail and cryptpad, both are pretty decent IMO.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 25 Feb 2026 at 10:15, m3shrom <<a href="mailto:m3shrom@riseup.net" target="_blank">m3shrom@riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
On 03/01/2026 10:52, brentc wrote:<br>
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> Having had a bit more of a look at Proton Mail, I think my impression <br>
> of their politics was off- they seem ok and the recent headlines <br>
> probably overblown.<br>
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Is this about right as a summary?<br>
<br>
So it seems like this is a really easy and free option with Proton <br>
Mail's google docs equivalent which seems really easy to get started with.<br>
<br>
A harder / hardest option is doing a self hosted Next Cloud or similar <br>
services.<br>
<br>
Are there any middle options that are vaguely ethical that people would <br>
suggest? Like a hosted/managed Next Cloud as part of a package? Having <br>
hosted email lists would also be good.<br>
<br>
Nice one<br>
Mick<br>
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