[LAF] FW: Anti-whaling petition

[Volodya]

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> I dint say  "Dint sign petitions"  i say sign them if you will but don't
> think they will work
> ( I did actually sign the petition that started this discussion)  and
> probably for the same reason that you did ) or that you have done your
> bit(I am sure that no one on this list would make that mistake )  I
> think petitions can be useful if you use them as a means to get to talk
> to people like we when we did petitions on thee street, but the mania
> for on line petitions .... well are they even ever presented  and in
> what form?

Ok, sorry, i was being too argumentative whilst we agree.

> If an action is *necessary* then it is justified unless you judge the
> end not to be just
> Your example of defending yourself  is a good one because it proves
> that  necessary in that case means justified
> why would anyone say you were not justified?  What would not be
> justified would be if you over powered your attacker and then killed
> them even though you were no longer in danger
> (In a nutshell if you think the cause is just and the action necessary
> I dont see how you can say its not justified

Ok, you can not be able to see how i say that (even after i explained it). But i
am still holding my view that necessity isn't the same as justification.

> The point of my original post however was to attack not people who
> advocate NVDA but theses who oppose NVDA infavour of only lawful methods

Ok, cool we agree on this also, then.

                       - Volodya




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