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<P>Thanks for that, Volodya</P>
<P>Nobody at LAF is fooled by stirrers and we cottoned on that someone was getting everything back to front. If Freedom don't get it, we'll just meet elsewhere but there's no chance of us falling for people who misunderstand and don't want to listen to people's views or discuss ideas.</P>
<P>See you on 31st March.</P>
<P>Joy<BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>From: <I>Volodya <Volodya@WhenGendarmeSleeps.org></I><BR>To: <I>List - London Anarchist Forum <laf@lists.aktivix.org></I><BR>Subject: <I>[LAF] Me, Freedom, and Childlove</I><BR>Date: <I>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:02:08 +0000</I><BR>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<BR>>Hash: SHA1<BR>><BR>>Fellow, persons,<BR>><BR>>Yesterday it was known to me that Freedom Collective is considering to ban me from Freedom<BR>>Bookshop because of allegations that i support of childlove movement (sometimes referred<BR>>to ask 'paedophilia advocacy'). Because of the content of the e-mail that was sent to me i<BR>>believe that it started from an individual from one of the forums that i was recently<BR>>banned from (VF.net). I was banned from there after voicing my opinions on the issues of<BR>>ageism and childlove
movement.<BR>><BR>>I was requested to clarify my stance on the issue for the Freedom Collective and i believe<BR>>that i have done so last night, here is the extract from what i've written:<BR>><BR>>- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>To tell you the truth, i don't really know what i believe about the childlove issue in<BR>>particular. My relevant beliefs on the issue can be shortly described as following:<BR>>1. I believe in freedom of speech.<BR>>2. I totally oppose ageism in any shape of form (even when it tries to hide itself as<BR>>"protecting our children").<BR>>3. I believe that childlove movement members are not allowed to express their views in an<BR>>open to discussion forum.<BR>>4. I believe that the only way to figure out what childlove movement is all about is to<BR>>have an open
discussion about the issue.<BR>>5. I do not believe in "protectionism". (It isn't directly related to childlove, but many<BR>>people confuse this particular belief of mine with lack of support to the victims of<BR>>abuse. This is *not* the case.)<BR>>6. I did not, nor have any plans to advocate childlove movement through London Anarchist<BR>>Forum.<BR>>7. I would have tried to discuss the issue to see what people think if given an<BR>>opportunity before, but now i am not sure if i would even do that.<BR>><BR>>Please note that by childlove i by no means refer to child rapists or child molesters. I<BR>>am in complete opposition to any form of non-consensual relationships, whether or not they<BR>>include children or not, and whether or not they include sex or not.<BR>><BR>>Let me make it clear:<BR>>I am not now nor have been since my politics began
developing supporting non-consentual<BR>>relationships.<BR>>- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>><BR>>I've also voiced my criticism of any type of "no platform policy", while saying that i<BR>>respect Freedom Collective's freedom to implement such a policy within their own collective.<BR>><BR>>The reason why i'm writing this e-mail is because i am afraid that some sort of campaign<BR>>has been launched against me, with the goal of tracking down political groups that i am<BR>>involved with and "helping them" to ban me. While i do believe that i have nothing to hide<BR>>about my politics, even when those politics are unpopular, i am trying to anticipate<BR>>further occurrences of the "smear campaign".<BR>><BR>>Free your mind and seek the
truth.<BR>> - Volodya<BR>><BR>>P.S. I hope that Freedom will decide not to ban me, and i will see you all on the 31st.<BR>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<BR>>Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux)<BR>><BR>>iD8DBQFF9kxwuWy2EFICg+0RAtNmAKCO0fvChC5wJjh2xIX52Ngv3icioQCgnwPl<BR>>IQVIzX2qCs26u4xJIb9Zbq0=<BR>>=W7TP<BR>>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<BR>><BR>>_______________________________________________<BR>>LAF mailing list<BR>>LAF@lists.aktivix.org<BR>>https://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/laf<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></div><br clear=all><hr>MSN Hotmail is evolving - check out the new <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUK/2743??PS=47575" target="_top">Windows Live Mail</a> </html>