<DIV>if it<STRONG> necessary</STRONG> to use violence(By which h I mean that there is no other way to achieve the objective) then it is justified (If you believe in the cause) IF it were p[possible to achieve the same result</DIV> <DIV>iin the same time without violence then violence would be wrong since it iwould it be <STRONG>unnecessary and therefor unjustified </STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The only way you can say its not justified is if the cause is not so important </DIV> <DIV>and that is going to be a matter of individual choice. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you are seeking to make a distention between violence against property </DIV> <DIV>and humans I agree there is that, but I still think that if you really want to stop whaling</DIV> <DIV>it is hypocrisy to confine yourself to methods like petitions that wont work</DIV> <DIV>Rather like the people who opposed slavery but not the rights of the Slaves to revolt
</DIV> <DIV>the net effect of that position WA\s that slavery continued longer than it would have done<BR></DIV> <DIV>Ed<BR><B><I>Volodya <Volodya@WhenGendarmeSleeps.org></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<BR>Hash: SHA1<BR><BR>> It is hypocrisy to claim to oppose whaling if you are not willing to<BR>> santion violence to stop it<BR><BR>Rubbish.<BR><BR>But i'd say that destroying tools of oppression is not violence, and violence<BR>for defence can be necessery even when not justified.<BR><BR>- Volodya<BR><BR>- --<BR>http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Voice of Freedom, Radical Podcast<BR>http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal<BR><BR>"None of us are free until all of us are free." ~ Mihail Bakunin<BR>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<BR>Version: GnuPG v1.4.6
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