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<DIV><FONT size=4>This will be my last post<STRONG> to this list after which I will remove myself so if you want to contact me by email you will</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>have to do so off list, </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>This post is also being sent to some NON MEMBERS of the LAF list</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>I will remove myself once this is sent</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>I am willing to post LAF events on the <SPAN>LAF</SPAN> page of my website for the time being (as it comes up in a google search) but you must send me an email with FULL details</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>Title/speaker, date time place, in good time, but I wont be on the list nor will I attend</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4><U>Why I am No Longer An Anarchist</U></FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>I would call myself a libertarian - socialist, supporting I suppose in practice a sort of limited state socialism </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>I am NOT defending a parliamentary position as such however , I support a moneyless stateless world with free access like anarchists in the long run (a few hundred million years should do it) but my position is herectical</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>from an anarchist perspective because meanwhile I live in the real world and support practical action to improve it</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>I support anti-hate speech laws beacause there is no other way to stop the consequences of hate speech</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>You start with a mildly racist joke on Monday and end up with the holocaust on Friday that is a <EM>logical progression it certainly what happened in Europe before the second world war</EM></FONT></STRONG></DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>
<DIV><BR>I support the laws that operate in most of Europe and elsewhere against holocaust denial, I dont see what case there is against them unless you agree with the holocaust</DIV>
<DIV>They amount to a libel against the victims, the survivors and families of the survivors and all thoses who have written about it and who fought against it they are being accused of telling lies, </DIV>
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<DIV>stamping on such people as David Irving</DIV>
<DIV>is no offence against liberty compared to what is going on elsewhere-- Chomsky has never supported free speech for people in Cuba I <EM>notice</EM> on the contary he has visited the country as a guest of the regime so its double standards</DIV>
<DIV>for him to criticise laws made by <EM>elected goverments</EM></DIV>
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<DIV><EM>I support the Race Relations law and other anti discrimanation laws, the logic of the anarchist position</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>is to oppose them and hope people will change, the fact is they wont and in any case I never heard of any anarchists who were trying to get them to</EM></DIV>
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<DIV><EM>Fact : In the 1960s you could walk around Britain and see signs "Room to let , NO Blacks, No Dogs" and it was the</EM> law alone <EM>that put a stop to that because most people thought it was all right</EM></DIV>
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<DIV><EM>II took public opinion a long time to catch up and those</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>signs would still be displayed today with out the law</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>The same is true of sex anti Gay and disability discrimanation, and </EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>domestic violence and there are many other examples where</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>the use of the law made things better. </EM></DIV>
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<DIV><EM>The fact is that attitudes have changed beacause a new generation grew up with the law and now find such discrimination socially as well as iegally unacceptable.</EM></DIV>
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<DIV><EM>Anarchist however prefer to organise riots, get themselves arrested for cudos, or simply indulge in lifestyle anarchism</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>then there are the Green anarchists who want to go back to the dark ages and dont mind using violence against anyone who disagrees and anarcho-capitalist who want </EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>the right to own hand held nuclear weapons and enforce slavery on their own property</EM></DIV>
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<DIV><EM>You also have the anarchist who support the crackpot</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>religious cult responsible for events at WACO putting the blame instead on the FBI who had to intervene to stop Child</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>abuse one of the main features of the cult sometime you have to take the side of the state, anarchist have no answer</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>to the Baby P senario and are happy to support any crackpot who says they are against the state</EM></DIV>
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<DIV><EM>This Just about sums up my position</EM></DIV>
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<DIV><EM>Ed</EM></DIV>
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