[matilda] FW: these are feelings, not an argument...
Joe Morris
malatesta_uk at hotmail.com
Thu Nov 10 15:52:03 GMT 2005
I sent it to the list because someone from Matilda space emailed me
a disgusting aggressive, spiteful and hurtful email about something
that allegedly happened in the space. Am I supposed to ignore this?
Is it ok for Eric to accuse me of things which aren't true while at the
same time attempting to be as nasty and vindictive as possible?
Had he done this to my face would it been wrong of me to bring it to
the attention of the Monday meeting. I mean, I wouldn’t want to make
him feel uncomfortable or anything…
This wasn't an expression of anger and distress, it was blatant
vitriol and an attempt at being as personal and cruel as humanly
possible. An attempt he has achieved with the utmost precision.
Joe
----Original Message Follows----
From: dougald hine <writetodougald at gmail.com>
To: Joe Morris <malatesta_uk at hotmail.com>, "M.A.T.I.L.D.A."
<matilda at lists.aktivix.org>
Subject: Re: [matilda] FW: these are feelings, not an argument...
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:43:46 +0000
Sorry, perhaps I should have put that differently. However much you
thought the contents of that email were 'bullshit', what made you
think it appropriate to forward someone else's expression of anger and
distress to an entire mailing list? Don't you see why that might make
people believe there was some truth in it?
On 11/10/05, Joe Morris <malatesta_uk at hotmail.com> wrote:
> What on Earth is going on here?
>
> Dougald, I have no idea what the man is talking about? The only thing I
have
> ever ever said, is given my opinion that Art '05 should not recieve
Matilda
> money to recoup overheads. I replied to one email that Eric sent to the
list
> and have made no effort to do anything.
>
> This is all complete bullshit, which apparently is acceptable.
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: dougald hine <writetodougald at gmail.com>
> To: Joe Morris <malatesta_uk at hotmail.com>, "M.A.T.I.L.D.A."
> <matilda at lists.aktivix.org>
> Subject: Re: [matilda] FW: these are feelings, not an argument...
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:18:46 +0000
>
> If I'd pushed another person to the point where they wrote an email
> like that, I wouldn't be proudly forwarding it to a public audience.
>
> On 11/10/05, Joe Morris <malatesta_uk at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > It would appear the tortured artist has finally lost his marbles...
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: Eric Winnert <ericwinnert at gmail.com>
> > To: malatesta_uk at hotmail.com
> > Subject: these are feelings, not an argument...
> > Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:00:38 +0000
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> >
> >
> > ...As such this is not open for discussion.
> >
> > These are feelings! Do you understand what feelings are? Didn't think
so!
> > You have created every thing that follows. Well done!
> >
> > I fucking hate you, you're a cunt!!
> >
> > I did something positive at Matilda, i created positive feelings and
> > emotions in people and all you can do is destroy it and replace it
with
> your
> > evil, negative fuelled hate. 5 people have come back to me angry with
> you.
> > All from the Art Collective. Coincidence? I don't think so
> >
> > Why Joe? Why do you think that's how you treat people? Sad thing is i
> know
> > for a fact you're proud of your self. You really think that upsetting
> people
> > like this makes you a 'man'. Ha! You stupid twat, no it makes you dumb
> > stupid immature child throwing a tantrum because you know that you
would
> > never be able to do what i did, because you don't have the
intelligence
> or
> > positive energy to carry it off.
> >
> > I know why you're doing this; i was there when you started to
formulate
> > this rather positive and clever argument about how to help people. It
was
> > all because i said i was professional artist. And because you're thick
> you
> > can't comprehend what professional means. It means doing things
properly,
> > have you ever done any thing properly? No you haven't
> >
> > After that you went round bad mouthing me to people. When i came back
to
> do
> > the show, someone came up to me and said "some people are going round
say
> > that you're only doing this for your self, you don't care about
Matilda."
> i
> > know it was you Joe. I was there when you came up with this clever
> argument
> > that is so filled with positive energy. Funny thing was, 5 minutes in
my
> > company this person realised that you were so, so wrong.
> >
> > Then when it was proved to you and every one else that you were wrong,
> you
> > widened your net of vicious attacks onto all the people connected to
me
> and
> > the art 05 project.
> >
> > I know why you're doing this because your jealous, remember you asked
if
> i
> > think I'm special? I am and you know it! More people love and respect
me
> > more than they ever would you! And the way you deal with it is to hurt
> > others even more. Basically your jealous because i wont fuck you, but
Joe
> i
> > wont fuck because I'm not gay, even if i was i still wouldn't touch
you,
> > because you a fat, ugly disgusting spite filled monstrosity!!!
> >
> > If you even try to reply to this, i will throw it up on the mail list
and
> > ask Mozaz to read it out to the rest of the group on Monday. Because
I'M
> > SICK TOTHE BACK TEETH of you hate filled evil spite that in your dumb
> > uneducated brain think is the way to treat decent hard working people
who
> > believe in helping others.
> >
> > There is only one person that doesn't belong at Matilda and that's
YOU.
> > Matilda is about positive energy, and a community that pulls together
to
> > help others. You are and evil person filled with negative energy and
the
> > only person you believe in helping is your self, to all the cream
cakes!
> >
> > You fat cunt.
> >
> > eric
> >
> > p.s. if you dont have a problem with recuoping cost, then why aren't i
> > alowed?
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
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>
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