Mailtda's non-commercial use clause, was: Re: [matilda] crisisof consensus

[Amparo P Gutierrez]

> 
> Urban Decay (Art05) doesn't seem to get many people in and that has
> been advertised and is part of a much bigger event.

But it does (get many people in). I've seen it with my own eyes. 
Visitors arrive in good numbers on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. 
Results: two artists ( German and French) wish now to join the art space 
collective to actively *work* with us.
If a possibility to purchase works exhibited had been considered, 
visitors would be buying them from Matilda. As things are, i guess they 
will be contacting the artists directly. (and Matilda is losing that 
source of extra income).



>  The main
>> problem is the lack of time to get through long agendas. Thankfully
>> this list can alleviate that if the more difficult debates take can
>> take place here, at least in part. There is simply not enough time to
>> agree some of these in a two hour, once per week meeting.

er.. what about the proposal to break up big meetings in small groups?
Together with some use of this list, (even if many persons involved in 
Matilda do not use this list, as Cuth stated before.)

I'm glad anyway that things are talked over and that wounds not allowed 
to fester... they're already festered for some.

In a nutshell: the ones who "do" can't be always dragging behind the 
ones that "make decisions": if this is another hierarchy it needs to be 
demolished. It does not make sense that persons coming to Matilda once 
or twice a week, to talk and dine for a couple of hours, are telling the 
others what they should or should not do... it implies a lot more. We 
have to find our own solutions if we don't want to be operating as any 
other standard gallery.

2) Cleaning the place: i propose here and now to pay a cleaner (or more 
cleaners) from the unemployed locals to regularly clean toilets and main 
gallery: nobody is doing it after the Monday meetings. If any problem 
with money transactions, this could also take place outside the building.

amp


atw wrote:
> Amparo> I don't see a problem here: "customers" will arrive to watch an artshow
> Amparo> (like the current fringe event which is attracting a good audience but
> Amparo> is being ignored as a potential target --except for email addresses
> Amparo> being collected--). But communications seem somewhat to be stagnant. Do
> Amparo> you really, honestly believe that someone would dare bringing up the
> Amparo> topic of an artshop after what was said in the previous meeting (after
> Amparo> the open rejection and passionate refusal)? It's an odd way of
> Amparo> thinking... wounds need a bit longer to heal.
> 
> 
> I hope if anyome was still interested in the Art shop they should
> bring it up again. That people feel passionately about things is no
> reason to stop talking about them. In fact it makes it more important
> to talk about them. It's the only way to resolve them. Wounds that are
> left don't always heal. They can fester. After time divisions grow and
> we won't have a very cohesive group.
> 
> I really hope that no one is scared to bring any item to the Monday
> meeting. That would be a very sad state of affairs indeed. The main
> problem is the lack of time to get through long agendas. Thankfully
> this list can alleviate that if the more difficult debates take can
> take place here, at least in part. There is simply not enough time to
> agree some of these in a two hour, once per week meeting.
> 
> Since my last proposal regarding the Artshop no one has disagreed. I
> spoke to Joe and he said he liked the idea. Maybe it would be
> acceptable to others too if brought up on a Monday. It's different to
> what was proposed before. The only way is to try it and see.
> 
> The major stumbling block is practical: how to get people into
> Matilda. Mark C was saying that we'd probably have to have someone
> flyering all day on the Moor to get a steady stream of visitors into
> the place because we're so far off the main drag. I think he is right.
> The shop he did worked because of where it was. It seemed to have
> people in there the whole time. Most people who come won't buy
> anything - they'll just look, so you need a lot of visitors if you
> want to make it viable.
> 
> Urban Decay (Art05) doesn't seem to get many people in and that has
> been advertised and is part of a much bigger event.
> 
> steve
> 
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