[matilda] global warming gig

nickwiltsher at warpmail.net nickwiltsher at warpmail.net
Tue Nov 29 12:58:48 GMT 2005


OK...

before i say anything, clearly no blame attaches to the gig collective
for any of this - if you're sold a gig you expect a gig, not an
all-nighter.

Although it's true that it is late to pull the plug on soundsystems, it
sounds as if we (you) are well within your rights to do so if you
weren't told about them.  Further, i think it very unlikely that enough
matilda people will volunteer to make this happen - too short notice
rather than unwillingness - i've already got plans and i expect others
have too.

So i think the best approach is for whoever has been liasing with the
organisers to say "gig yes, party no", ASAP, ie today.  If that fucks
them off, that's their problem - they should have been upfront about
what they were planning rather than relying on our good will  to let and
help them do whatever they want.

Of course this is easy for me to say since i'm not going to have to talk
to an irate young socialist.  Unless nobody else wants to take the flak,
in which case i'll do it if i can have the contact details.  This is
obviously going to make us unpopular with the ISYF, but unless a dozen
people are going to volunteer to make it happen i don't see another
option.  Learn a lesson about insisting on details before agreeing to
host events and move on.

Audio- the film will go on the announcements email when i send it later
today or tomorrow morning.  I can't provide any of the things you need,
or be there on Thurs to help. Sorry. If you do decide to cancel, try and
let me know soonish so i don't announce a non-existent event.

nowt's ever simple is it?  Apart from objects with no parts.  A
metaphysics joke for you there.  Smile!

n

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:00:40 +0000, "Joe Public"
<iloveavocado at hotmail.com> said:
> Basically the gig on Friday was sold to us as a gig, a benefit for global 
> warming*. It's apparently now being advertised as an all night party,
> with 
> soundsystems.
> 
> Firstly, we weren't told about this. They were exceptionally vague, 
> neglecting to mention that it was a benefit for a socialist youth group
> (I 
> don't particularly care, but I feel that we should have been told where
> the 
> money was going) or that they planned to put on a party, basically.
> 
> Secondly, I don't know what we're meant to do. I'll help out with a gig,
> but 
> not a free party. It's late that it'll be shit to tell them they can't
> have 
> a soundsystem, but maybe that's what we have to do. Parties are well
> beyond 
> what the gig collective do, and I'm not up for staying up all night
> herding 
> pilled-up Trot kids away from live wires/big holes/etc, especially
> because 
> its the anarchist book fair in Manchester the next day.
> 
> So... what is general opinion on this? Pancho and I can work the gig (I 
> haven't talked to Nick and Helene yet), but not a party, so we'd need
> lots 
> of Matilda people for that to happen. I can't do much more than turn up
> on 
> Friday because I have a full week of university work, Nick & Helene are 
> presumably still recovering from the film fest and Pancho is playing gigs 
> this week.
> 
> Kathleen
> 
> 
> *That this turned out to mean 'raising money for a fossil-fuel powered
> bus 
> down to a march in London' is beside the point, right?
> 
> 
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