[matilda] Creche/Playgroup was Re: Doug the man and atw

R&A robin_amparo at tiscali.co.uk
Wed Oct 26 22:18:28 BST 2005


Not unworthy of political comments, since "excessive regulation" would 
very likely follow certain activities involving certain groups in the 
Sydney works premises.
But bureaucracy and their regulations should not stop an experimental 
project. (i mean in a theoretical hypothetical framework [ALWAYS]).
If we talk about access for disabled persons, that means a pile of extra 
regulations to comply with, unless done in an individual basis, out-of 
-love so to speak (unless they come and go accompanied by another person 
at their own risk).
Similarly with kids (under age criminals according to blunkett and 
associates): a pile of regulations would crash matilda, banning almost 
everything or viceversa (no smoking, no drinking no condons left on the 
floor of the hacklab etc). Unless individual meetings are arranged by 
the persons involved themselves, and a kind of mini-agreement may then 
be proposed as a factual "reality" in order to reach the so-called 
consensual decision.

Or am i being too abstract for the common folk?


Chris Malins wrote:

> Maybe we should form a political party dedicated to the removal of the 
> excessive regulation which is applied to businesses and voluntary 
> organisations by the socialist government...
> 
> Ken Clarke could be our leader.
> 
> Mr Jase Malgod wrote:
> 
>>
>>> atw> Maybe we could organise a creche, or kids room or .... ???
>>>
>>> Amparo> Er... this issue was already raised by Chris among others.
>>> Amparo> Trouble from bureaucrats, again, likely to surface.
>>> Amparo> We might have the space but not yet completely safe for kids 
>>> unless
>>> Amparo> permanently under parents' supervision...
>>> atw writes:
>>> Yeah, well I think supervision would be necessary - and possibly fun
>>> too. But if shared amongst parents and others then overall people
>>> would get more time off parenting - esp. good for single parents.
>>> Also I don't think we have bureaucrats but admittedly consensus
>>> decision making is slow and a pain sometimes. But unless someone can
>>> suggest anything better....
>>
>>
>>
>> Think the bureaucrats point was about regulation of creche space i.e.
>> "Anyone who provides day care for other people's children (day or 
>> night) for more than 2 hours in any day must be registered with the 
>> Office for Standards in Education (Ofsted)."
>> Also anyone who looks after kids needs to have a Police Background 
>> Check which costs a fair bit afaik.
>> For these reasons any formal creche facility would be difficult to set 
>> up, tho' for big events a kids space should be possible to arrange, 
>> for example it was done for peace in the park.
>>
>> Jason
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