[matilda] Re: Facilitation

[gavin at cyber-rights.net]

Yes, the faciliatator is there to...well, faciliatate. They aren't 
meant to be giving their views and so on, unless they do so NOT as 
facilitator. Their job is to help the group move towards consensus.

Which is why someone from outside the group is quite handy 
sometimes, though it of course helps if they're sympahtetic to the 
group's aims.

x

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 06:07:49 -0700 farmerylee at onetel.com wrote:
>I thought the idea of a facilitator was just to co-ordinate the 
>meeting 
>and keep
>some vague notion of control? As consensus for any decision has to 

>be achieved
>by the whole group does it really matter what the individual 
>facilitator's
>views are? I would think anyone with basic chairman-like skills 
>should be able
>to fulfil the role adequately, whether part of the group of not.
>
>This leads me onto another question - at what point does someone 
>become a
>'member?' The very nature of the collective makes this very hard 
>to determine.
>
>These comments are just food-for-thought and are not aimed at 
>anyone. Reading
>between the lines of the MATILDA lists there seems to be a lot of 
>paranoia
>floating around!
>
>Lee
>
>Quoting R&A <robin_amparo at tiscali.co.uk>:
>
>> "By the way the second matilda meeting we had was facilitated by 

>someone
>>> from outside the group so it is not all that unusual"
>>
>> Only the second meeting. BTW the point of having external 
>facilitators
>> or not is quite important; consensus should be reached, imho. 
>Are a
>> facilitator's own political ideas relevant or not? Guess they 
>are. Could
>> we accept as facilitator, say, someone who opposes immigrants 
>and
>> immigration? Someone who opposes self-defence or the creation of 

>the g8
>>   legal support group, on the grounds of non-violence being "an 
>absolute
>> priority"? Or say, someone who wants everyone else to follow 
>given
>> guidelines for legal demos? Shouldn't we watch out for "the 
>vertical
>> hidden within the horizontal"?
>>
>> amp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> amp
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>>
>> cuthbert at riseup.net wrote:
>>> By the way the second matilda meeting we had was facilitated by 

>
>>> someone from outside the group so it is not all that unusual.  
>Plus 
>>> jason is a skilled faciliator, although he hasnt been involved 
>in 
>>> matilda for as long as others he is quite well known and think 
>we 
>>> should be happy to have him in the group.
>>>
>>> from cuthbert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Why odd? Look at:
>>>>
>>>> "A BLUEPRINT FOR PUTTING ON EVENTS AT MATILDA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Note: a 'matilda person' is someone involved in the collective 

>
>>>> who's been to a decent number of meetings and is familiar to 
>>>> everyone else in the collective."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> mind you, nothing personal against Jase or Jason, since this 
>>>> agreement was made before.
>>>>
>>>> R&A
>>>>
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